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post #21 of 108 Old 02-03-2012, 09:44 PM
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Was the horse removed from the owner & trainer? Because the poor guy needs to get out of that situation :(
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post #22 of 108 Old 02-03-2012, 09:58 PM
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i'm with you mudpie!

Thats the problem with judges that don't know a flip about animals judging on thisgs they know nothing about in my opinion.

I think the horse should have been removed from both parties.

the owner for not seeing and or stopping the abuse
and the trainer for not either
a. seeing the damage that may or may not have been done before
b. if it happened on their watch for the damage

The poor horse is the loser any way it goes and I'm sorry but taking a horse with horrific injuries like that to a show 10 days later is cruelty if you ask me.

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:( yeah I mean what rotten luck being stuck with such a person and then having absolutely no choice in the matter. No thumbs to escape.. no way to dye its own fur to avoid being caught. No way to change its identity..

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This wasn't something fit to be adjudicated in civil court. This was a case ready for criminal prosecution.
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That horse should have been taken from the owner and put into a foster home and adopted to someone else. I mean.. the verdict doesn't affect the horse which is sad.

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I agree WildAcre. It's a sad situation all around.

Pre-existing damage aside, she had to have been snubbed down pretty darn tight and fought like heck to open her tongue like that. In a horse that was already trained and going for a tune-up, that's not the type of behavior one would expect. I'd say she was in pain prior (hence the head tossing and aggravation at the bit to start with) and desperately wanted to get away from that pain and her fight or flight kicked in.

I think the owner most likely wasn't honest about prior injury and had that been disclosed the whole situation could have been avoided. Big shame on her for hauling that poor mare to a show 10 days later, that mare is surely a saint for tolerating it.

I rehabbed a mare several years ago that had scars across her tongue from a similar deal where her tongue was all but severed. The owners brought her to me about a year or so afterwards as they couldn't do anything with her mouth (had to be tranq'd to deworm even), let alone put a bit in her mouth. It took quite awhile but I did eventually get her accepting of my hands in her mouth, still to deworm and riding in a rubber mouth snaffle. She was still ultra sensitive and any excess pressure (in her mind - mild for any other horse) would send her straight up. She'll never be able to be ridden with a bit in any but the quietest of hands. They now ride her in a rope halter and she packs their kids around, more than happy to work off seat & legs.
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The owner might have been stupid, the trainer was criminal. Owner brought her horse to a professional, yes you and I would have stopped the incident before it escalated to the point of abuse, but we are not stupid, and probably know when abuse is disguised as training. The trainer never denied abuse, if she didn't abuse the horse why did she pay for the vet. If it was an old injury a professional horse trainer would have noticed when the bridle was put on. That tongue was about cut in half. I hope that trainer looses as much as the horse did.
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post #28 of 108 Old 02-04-2012, 11:16 AM
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Ugh. Stupid people trusting stupid people.

If Judge Judy is as to the letter as she is, hopefully she reported this incident to the proper authorities herself. She's a small claims judge, not an individual trained to rule in an animal welfare case (unfortunately for this particular horse). She can't necessarily direct punitive measures right then and there in the interstate of this animal's case.

I would love to tie these two morons down and beat them with a dressage whip... maybe they'll learn something about horses.
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post #30 of 108 Old 02-04-2012, 11:21 AM
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This wasn't something fit to be adjudicated in civil court. This was a case ready for criminal prosecution.
From what I understood, it went through a criminal court already and once again, the trainer could not be proven guilty. Which is why the owner tried civil court.

I'm not surprised by how it all went down, abuse is so subjective and it was so she said-she said. And the trainer was far more prepared and professional than the owner, even if they both were nattering back and forth like children. They had 20-some minutes to prove their points, the owner started crying and couldn't get her facts straight. Right off the bat I dismissed her as some over dramatic lady. Don't abuse my horse! Only I can when I ride her while injured!
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