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post #1 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 04:15 AM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Skinny horse and no one will help ):

So, there has been this super skinny thoroughbred horse that these guys don't take care of. I've tried talking them out of him, and they are more concerned about money than the welfare of him. He told me that he was just too big and eats a lot, and on his budget he can't give him what he needs all the time. I was in shock when he said this!

I went to the sheriffs' department and when they went out there, they guy told them that HE rescued him and was just now putting on weight, but the pictures I had showed the officers showed the horse with slightly more weight on him than when they went and checked up on the situation. Now how is that?? If this guy had just rescued him, and had him on a balanced diet to gain weight, WHY on earth would he still be losing weight? Huh?? The guy also showed me pictures when he had first acquired this gelding, and he was much fatter than what he is now. Some police officers don't use common sense, or don't care- not sure which one on this.

Anyway, I have called every rescue, contacted multiple news stations, and nothing has ever been done. They are still attempting to sell him but with no luck because he is so darn thin.

Has anyone had this situation come up before? Where, with clear evidence of abuse, nothing has been done? I feel so bad for this gelding. He is such a sweet boy.
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post #2 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 04:30 AM
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That's so messed up... :(

Do you have time stamped pictures? You could get the courts involved and get them for neglect charges.

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post #3 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 10:04 AM
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I would contact SPCA or animal control. The police would have their hands tied on this one. A rescue would as well. The SPCA or animal control would have a better chance because they could have police power or more sway with the officers. They would also require things like a vet check. That said it does take a long time to put weight on a thin horse. Thoroughbreds are not known for being easy keepers and if he has any dental or gastric issues (ulcers) that could complicate things. I would talk to animal control or SPCA if I was in your boat.
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post #4 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 10:41 AM
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There have been many, many times where I have called the authorities for neglected animals. They did nothing about it.

One instance was when I discovered a horse way thinner than the one you pictured. I called the proper authorities who went out (I took pictures of him and sent them the address along with the photos) and talked to the owner. The owner said he was so thin because he was 30+ years old. They authorities appologized and left.

Did they require the owner to show them vet bills? No. Where the food was kept? No. Nothing. They took the owner's word and walked off, leaving a suffering horse.

I don't care how old a horse is. There is no excuse for an animal to look the way that animal did if it had proper care. Geriatric horses need extra, extra care to keep them healthy. If you can't or won't do that, put the animal down.

As long as the animal appears to have food, shelter and water, the authorities won't do anything about it, no matter how thin the horse is.

Those Animal Cop shows are a load of croc.

There were a couple other instances where a bunch of horses had severe slipper feet and were standing in years of their own crap, contained in stalls with no exercise of freeding (for years!) and the authorities did nothing. The owner proved they had shelter, food and water. That ended the story.

Good luck. The only thing I can say is that persistance pays off. Most neglect cases take years of harrassing the authorities for them to do anything about it. Meanwhile, the animals suffer and die.
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post #5 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 12:44 PM
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Why don't you just buy him?

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post #6 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 01:47 PM
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That is the same problem I run into here with trying to rescue some of the horses, people are not willing to give them up and no one will make them. Our county does have a Humane Society that tries to help a little, but the two counties near us have none and the police want no part of it.

So sadly to say, when I want to rescue one in a situation like that, I sometimes have to fork over some money to get them out.
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I don't know if the OP has tried to offer money. You can't buy something thats not for sale though. Maybe see how much they got him for and at least match it...if not raise it a bit.
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Originally Posted by Silent one View Post
That is the same problem I run into here with trying to rescue some of the horses, people are not willing to give them up and no one will make them. Our county does have a Humane Society that tries to help a little, but the two counties near us have none and the police want no part of it.

So sadly to say, when I want to rescue one in a situation like that, I sometimes have to fork over some money to get them out.
Agreed. I paid the owners of my rescues for the horses I've had. I have had a couple given to me that could no longer be cared for. Those were the ones that were in the better shape because the owners didn't care about money, they cared about giving their animal a home that could provide better care than they were able.

Unfortunately, it sounds like this owner isn't going to be the type to let go of the horse without some compensation. If you're passionate about the horse and giving it a better situation, I'd offer them a cash offer and let them make the next move.

Or if you can't afford to bail him, I'd start networking him to friends and see if anyone could. I've found homes for quite a few horses that I couldn't myself take but knew people who were looking for something similar.

Hope something happens for him. It isn't an excuse, BUT, TB's are probably the hardest horses (this is just my opinion of it) to maintain. Especially an OTTB if he ever was raced. They are high stress and nerves and always need a very specific and expensive diet to keep them maintained. Also something to consider for your own situation if you do decide to get him. Make sure you're prepared for a difficult journey.

A TB in that stage of weight loss is going to be very, very hard to bring him back up. They lose so quickly and gain back so slowly. Poor guy has a looong road ahead.

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post #9 of 10 Old 07-07-2012, 07:33 PM
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This is awful. I know that the laws concerning animals vary from state to state, but in Arizona horses are livestock and as such require only water and forage! If the authorities come out and there is water on site and hay of some kind that is all they can do. There was one instance where the water was there and there were a couple of bales of cheap hay set off to the side... but a couple horses died anyway because it was only there for show. Never actually used. Please keep nagging at the authorities and get someone to listen. Lazy owners have all kinds of excuses and stories for justifying their horrid behavior.

On the other side I've actually taken in horses for no more than gas money so the people can get back to their home state and start over. Those are the people that just want to do whats right and bless 'em for trying.
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Well, I offered them $500 before and they turned it down. They were originally asking $2500, and have lowered it to $900. He has gained very little, and was way worse off before they moved to a new property with a grass pasture. But the pasture he is on has zero nutrients-it's all dried weeds and crabgrass.

I want to take buy him so badly, as I've done something like this before, but I'm already trying to care for my filly Ginger who's having some sort of weight issue. Until the vet can pinpoint her issue, I really shouldn't take on another horse needing extensive care.

I have contacted Animal Control here, and they won't do anything because it's in the county, and the sheriff's department has very little care towards the situation and would rather not handle it. I have contacted every rescue around here, HSUS, and even a rescue in Texas and they won't do anything. One lady told me that you have to make the biggest fuss you can make for a very loooong time before someone will pay any attention to it.

I've given the guy hay, grain, and even money to help out with expenses. I know I shouldn't because likely he didn't use the money for horse supplies, but at least I tried. He has about eight other horses in the same condition, but this guy is the worse out of them all. It's such a shame.
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