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post #1 of 22 Old 04-03-2012, 02:43 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone ever been in an awkward situation with new horses old owner?

Just wondering if anyone has ever had issues with buying a horse from someone that they know (whether a close friend or someone that they just met). I recently brought a horse from someone that I hadnt known long but we got on great from the get go and I thought we were heading towards being great friends. I didnt have a vet check done (I know, I know!) because I felt very confident in that she was completely honest with any faults that he had and I was only buying him as a light hack, being an older boy. Anyway he gets allergies and can cough a bit especially given that he is out of work and quite unfit. I decided that I would get both horses (I have a mini that I got this year too and no vet check either) looked over by a vet before we go into winter. They are both very healthy but thought it couldnt hurt. Anyway she heard about this and messaged me saying that his breathing was down to his allergies as he has always been like this as has had it checked it the past. I said thats fine but that I wanted to get both horses looked at anyway before winter and she has accused me of not trusting her word. I replied that it was nothing to do with that, I think my buying him without a vet check is evidence enough that I trust her word. I havent heard from her for two weeks now and feel very uncomfortable about the whole situation as I know she is missing him and likes to stop in and say hi to him. I've decided the issue is hers, not mine and she can get in touch with me when she has calmed down. Any similar situations out there? And please no tellings off about not getting vet checks done
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Her reaction worries me. It almost soUnds like she's hiding something.
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post #3 of 22 Old 04-03-2012, 03:20 AM
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Firstly, put yourself in her shoes.

You sold your horse to a girl you've become really good friends with etc and then despite you telling her about the issues, she still wants the vet to look at your old horse.

UNLESS you are looking for something to eliviate his issues and need your vets advice- in which case just tell her that. You're trying to ease his breathing, if she still is funny with you, then she doesn't give a darn about the horse's health and you're better off without her.
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post #4 of 22 Old 04-03-2012, 03:23 AM
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Her reaction worries me. It almost soUnds like she's hiding something.
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I would be nervous about this also. Horse people can be very shifty creatures... nice as pie until the money changes hands.
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I think you have two choices, either don't worry about her feelings or lie.
If you chose the latter, you could totally say you want to get them their shots, or the vet is a farrier too and they need their feet done - or just agree there is no need to call a vet and pretend you cancelled him. (apparently I am quite good at coming up with lies).

As far as the allergies, I post this all over the board as I love the stuff, it works great for my horse.

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post #6 of 22 Old 04-03-2012, 04:33 AM
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I wouldn't lie about it. At least for me, lies usually come back to haunt me. I wouldn't worry about someone like that either. That gives you a glimpse of what they are truly like.

When we got our Lucy, we had to take her away from her dam at six weeks old without notifying the dam's owner. Lucy needed surgery and couldn't go back to the nasty stable she came from or she would have definitely got infected. We took precautions per the vet prior to removing her. The dam wasn't producing much milk because of poor nutrition. We had started Lucy on mares milk pellets and she wasn't really trying to nurse anyway. We were told by the BO that none of the dam's owners horses could leave there (besides Lucy because we took over ownership of her) because she was past due on her board for them. So we removed Lucy without telling her. She called us furious about it and for putting her horse in jeopardy by taking Lucy away. We explained to her everything and that her horse wasn't even producing milk. She told us that we would never get Lucy's papers. That was almost six years ago and she's still holding a grudge. Her horse was fine afterward and she doesn't even have her anymore. She even told us later that we could have bought her dam so Lucy could have been weaned normally but we didn't know because of the lie from the BO. Anyway, she still blames us for it and not the BO. Go figure.
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Thanks for your thoughts. I will definitely look into getting him something like that, not sure whether that exact product would be sold in NZ.
Its a funny thing, I really do feel that she has been honest with me about him but that it is just her feelings being hurt by me not taking her word. Its not that I am worried about him (or else I would have had a vet look at him by now) but that I would like to discuss him in general with a vet and any things I can do due to him being older and sometimes a bit stiff.
She wasnt initially planning on selling him but after seeing me lose my nerve with riding and go through what she had in the past she felt he would be perfect for me. It was very much a situation where I felt that I should be grateful that she considered selling him to me. And dont get me wrong, I was but she was bored with him and had moved on to other horses at the same property that had a bit more get up and go. So he wasnt really getting ridden much.
I wouldnt say that we are good friends but since we live near each other I have stopped in for cups of tea etc and felt that it was the beginning of a friendship. She has been very good about not crowding me or turning up all of the time to visit him but has let me know that I can come to her with any questions or help if I need it.
I guess in my eyes if I was in her position I would say go for it if she wanted a vet to look at him for any reason, even if I felt it wasnt necessary I would know he was in a caring home.
I definitely wont lie about it when I do eventually get a vet out but I still find the reaction a bit over the top. And yes, it does make me wonder if there is something that she doesnt want me to find out about but my gut tells me that she has been completely honest so far.
I'm not a great one for standing up for myself and my first reaction was to gush about her much I trust her etc but then I decided, no he's my horse now and my responsibility. Im tempted to get in touch to patch things up but I think I will just leave it up to her, as much as it is bugging me!
The two requests that she made when I brought him was a/ if I ever decided to sell him that she would have first right to buy him back and b/ that I let the guy who had been doing his feet to continue to do so as he has a soft spot for the horse and likes to visit him. I'm fine with the first but after he got a pricked hoof from having his shoes done with me for the first time the other day then that one is out the window. He's a 'self taught' farrier and I'm definitely not letting him near my horses feet again!
Sorry for the long rant
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Her reaction sounds odd. Why the heck should she care WHY you're having the vet out for your horses if she was honest about his health issues. Something smells fishy.

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post #9 of 22 Old 04-03-2012, 07:51 AM
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why say anything, is it your horse or not ? I dont understand these types of posts. See these types of threads over and over. Answer is it's your horse, have some backbone. Who cares what the former owner, BO, next door neighbor, cousins brother in laws nephews uncle thinks.
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Joe4d - if you dont understand this type of post then perhaps refrain from commenting?
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