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post #1 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
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Bad behavior - what would you do?

Just curious to see what people think -

A similar situation to this happened last summer at a very popular trail ride event - we're talking literally more than 100 horses and riders, raffle, lunch, etc. The trail opens and closes at a certain time and people are welcome to start whenever they want to, so everyone's fairly spread out.

What if you were riding at a trail event (not necessarily competition - just an "organized trail ride" and you come upon a parent and child each riding their horse. The child's horse is acting up, including kicking and biting at other riders' horses. The child is obviously very upset and uncomfortable with the situation and cannot handle the horse, yet the parent keeps trying to "coach" the child for what they should do. All the while, they are coming up behind other riders as well as having other riders come up behind them, constantly making the situation worse and putting other people and their horses at risk. They are creating a sort of road block with this stop-act up-go thing, and when you try to go around, the horse acts up and kicks out, but when you're ahead and want to slow down, they catch up and you're still in the mess (not to mention the issues going on with the parent and child as well). Unfortunately, since it's a trail ride, there are no "officiators" to step in and do something - so what do you do?

In my case, I just did my best to get out ahead of them and my horse has a big trot so I put quite a bit of distance between myself and this situation. I didn't necessarily want to be trotting the whole ride, but I couldn't slow down even if I got a decent distance ahead of them because they would catch up again. Of course, this horse didn't have a ribbon in its tail. Is there ever a point to step in? Does it make a difference that there are other riders in danger? Or do you just watch out for yourself and hope everyone else does the same?? And pray that kid somehow doesn't get thrown in the process?
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post #2 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 05:53 PM
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I'd talk to the parent, and have them move the horse out of my way so I could pass.

At the end of the ride, I'd talk to the parent again and explain the situation was unacceptable.
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Mind your own business. There is always that ONE person on a large trail ride that goofs things up the whole time. The parent should know better than to give their child a horse like that, especially in a crowded area. Nothing you say will help or change that decision. If they're daft enough to give their child that horse and put everyone at risk and sour the trail ride, they won't listen to what you have to say.

Either head out before they do or give them an hour's head start so you don't have to try and outrun them. If you do say something, mention that maybe they need to go back to the trailers since the horse is acting dangerously, or parent and child should switch horses. Offering parenting advice is a big no-no.

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post #4 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 06:33 PM
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Trotting ahead didn't work........lope ahead next time.......out of sight, out of mind
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post #5 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 06:43 PM
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I agree..probably not much you can do but ask them to move aside so you can pass.
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post #6 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 07:06 PM
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True, you never know who's going to blow up and get ugly bout things. I was at a small local show and a little girl had just run poles and leaving the arena her horse kicked out at a horse near the gate. Her horse did have a ribbon in the tail and the other mother and daughter shouldn't have been standing around at the exit way. Nevertheless the mom who's childs horse was kicked at went to yelling and cussing at the other child then that childs grandma jumped in and the grandpa had to pull her away and the child was just horrified at it all. The kind of people that do such stuff aren't willing to listen to reason and apparently aren't aware of other peoples rights or privileges, it's all about them.
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I was the one on all the group trail rides that had the kicker..if anyone who didn't know the horse was going to be riding with us, she had a ribbon in her tail and I told everyone that she still kicks and we're working on it.

There would be the occasional rider who wanted to work on their horse staying back and not nose to tail, they brought up the rear behind me. If no one wanted to, I brought up the rear so no one would get kicked.

Every show we went to, when I walked into the arena I let everyone know that she was a kicker and to stay off her butt and give ample space when passing..but there was always that oneperson that never listened. Yes, my horse kicks, but shows and trails were the only place it happened. Thus, to fix her issue and retrain the kicking, we had to attend trails and shows.
It was fixed relatively quickly..but only because I took her out and schooled her. She hasn't kicked with me since, but she will kick with someone else riding her. It's a confidence issue she has when out with unfamiliar horses.

If I see a red ribbon, I don't care that they brought a kicker, I have enough respect and self preservation for both myself and my horse to stay a safe distance away.
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I agree with Alex. I would have spoken with the parent. Doing something like that is not about parenting, it's about putting others in unnecessary risk by putting a child on a horse they can't control.

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OK, I read about 2 paragraphs into the original post and skimmed the others, and all I can say is that I avoid those large trail rides because of these kinds of situations. There are trail rides for charity that I would love to participate in, but there is always the stallion that "has NEVER done that before" or the other upstart (horse and/or human) that ruins everybody's day.
Who was the sponsor/head organizer of this ride? Are there any policies in place? Or is this a big free-for-all? "Trail riding" has so many different meanings. There needs to be some accountability for appropriate horsemanship somewhere, or else there will be issues.
So... ride with a group that values good horsemanship, or learn to deal with the unnerving situations that come up, such as this one. As others have stated, GET FAR AWAY from the problem riders is the best that you can do when you realize that there is an issue. Ugh, I just ride with trusted and seasoned riders. Period.
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post #10 of 19 Old 02-06-2013, 10:08 PM
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...but there is always the stallion that "has NEVER done that before" ...

^^That right there is one of the reasons why I prefer geldings to mares for kid horses. I can only imagine the horror of having your 7 year old child riding around on their mare (who happens to be in heat) and having some asshat's uncontrollable stud mount the mare and squash the kid.

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