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        02-06-2013, 11:38 PM
      #11
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    I would have asked the parent if there was any way I could be of help, such as ponying the horse or taking the child behind me and letting mom pony the horse. Not sure, but at least offer help. If they were too far out to turn back, then there's nothing they can do but continue onward.
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        02-07-2013, 11:30 AM
      #12
    Yearling
    Maybe the mom did not think the child's horse was going to act up like it did. I would have switched horses with my child if possible. Unfortunately, that horse is getting away with bad behavior, needed a more experienced rider. Hopefully the mom won't put the child on that horse around large groups of riders again, at least not until the child gets more experience. It does interrupt my riding experience when I encounter this type of issue. I stay away, move up or stay back. One thing, when you choose to bring a child on a ride, large or small, you cannot expect other riders to be responsible for your child, babysit. Try and find out if it is going to be a family type ride or more of an adult ride.
         
        02-07-2013, 11:42 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I agree with cantering up ahead. I have seen lots of idiots on the trail with horses they can't handle, or kicky horses without ribbons. Equally I have ridden kicky horses with their tails covered in ribbons and had people ride right up my horses butt and get kicked.

    If you have to, say something or offer to help, but staying ahead of them is the best route for sure.
         
        02-07-2013, 02:10 PM
      #14
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    Anyone can have problems at one time or another.
    I am both experienced enough and bold enough to offer sound advice.

    Many times I have been fox hunting on a young green horse which has behaved impeccably and others, when riding an older horse who should know better, has behaved like a hooligan!

    As you ride more you will realise that things do not always go to plan, as with mother and daughter in this instance, sympathy and constructive help is needed rather than being down on them.
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        02-07-2013, 02:28 PM
      #15
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    I agree with cantering up ahead. I have seen lots of idiots on the trail with horses they can't handle, or kicky horses without ribbons. Equally I have ridden kicky horses with their tails covered in ribbons and had people ride right up my horses butt and get kicked.

    If you have to, say something or offer to help, but staying ahead of them is the best route for sure.

    I would def. NOT canter off ahead. If you are well away from them , ok. But if you pass them, then canter off you could REALLY upset this already emotional horse and rider. If I am dealng with some kind of naughtiness, and another rider canters off in front of me, my horse will try to follow and it makes things that much more difficult. It could make the child's horse buck and toss the child.
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        02-07-2013, 03:13 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    Reminds me of the only big ride I've been on... or will ever go on

    It was my first year of college. My gelding was leased out and I had to borrow a horse.

    This event was the Ride for Life. 200+ horses and riders from back yard owners to well known horse trainers, breeders, etc... It was to raise money for cancer research. The event was created by 2 girls for their 4-h program and was a great idea.

    The horse I borrowed was 4yrs old, just home from 60 days with the trainer. I wasnt told this until I was in the saddle and she freaked. I got her into the arena, worked her out, and we did over half the ride. Thank god I have always been thrown on green horses or it could have ended badly.

    A few incidents:
    I had won a raffle prize and went to collect it on horseback when the celophane still 5 ft away spooked her and she reared with people coming up all around "trying to help" but only freaking her out more. She was suppose to be sacked out and "never" spooks. Every noise made her jump and she would kick out at any horse who came up behind us. She also thought a childs pony was a calf that she could chase and again THANK GOD I got that horse under control before the pony even had a chance to notice this horse about to try and corral it. After the pony instance I decided we were done. There was no way I was putting kids at risk (there was a lot of ponys). I could stay to the back, tied a ribbon on her tail, handle the spooks but the bolting after ponys was my last straw.

    Before the event even started an ambulance had to be called. A kids horse reared and the kid fell, hitting his head on a metal electrical box. Sliced him WIDE open. Very horrifying. All through the event people were getting hurt, horses too. It was mostly chaos. Never again for me!
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        02-07-2013, 03:32 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    HAHA countrylove...that reminded me of a time when my girl pepper was SOOO infatuated with a mini donkey (he had a little boy riding him- it was cute) on a ride... she had her eye on them the whole time and I think she would have worked them if I had given her the chance!

    This is why I now only attend "chaperoned" rides.. where there is SOMEONE that can give orders to people like this. Its amazing to me how many people with show up on a ride and not be aware of any etiquette (tail gating, running past other's horses ect... By all means my mare can and has been a ding bat on some trail rides (she is trained to the hilt- just has her days), But I ALWAYS get her away from anyone else when she chooses to act that way.

    IMO I wouldn't be giving any parenting advice to these people.. that has a way of causing fights.. If you have the knowlege to help out the situation, I think that is a better way to go.. or just try to get past as quickly and unobtrusively as possible..
         
        02-07-2013, 04:00 PM
      #18
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by peppersgirl    
    HAHA countrylove...that reminded me of a time when my girl pepper was SOOO infatuated with a mini donkey (he had a little boy riding him- it was cute) on a ride... she had her eye on them the whole time and I think she would have worked them if I had given her the chance!
    Now I can look back and laugh my *** off about it but at the time I was fuming LoL I hadn't ridden in nearly a year except a few hours maybe once a month and was expecting this calm experienced horse. Nope, she had never been to an event let alone one of this size. I was out of shape and all I could think is this horse is going to be the death of me LoL Of course being in college and young I was determined to make it work :)

    Once she got the cow thoughts we were done. I had lost all control and one of those ponies would have been corralled if I didn't get her out when I did. In retrospect its quite hilarious especially cause the one she was set on was a black and white paint with no tail and a roached mane... it looked like a cow LoL I can't blame her there LoL

    And on the plus side we also discovered her passion in cattle work. Before they wanted to do Eventing, trails, and endurance. Now she is working cows all over the west coast :)

    Alls well that ends well...

    Definitely soured me to large rides especially because the horse I described were 80% of the type of horses there. Most people couldn't finish the ride. And I'm honestly surprised the ambulance only came once but thankful too
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        02-07-2013, 04:09 PM
      #19
    Green Broke
    By canter ahead I did not mean 'run by' the horse with issues. I don't think anyone should ever run by anyone else.

    I've had horses misbehave, but honestly, horses should be trained and tested out before you take them to a major public event. If you can't control your horse enough to at least do a one rein stop and get off, or steer them out of the way of other riders, you should not be on that horse. If your horse is prone to bolting, bucking or rearing, you should try working through the issues beforehand.

    I rode a green Ottb on one ride that pranced, crow hopped and cantered side ways at one point. I was able to keep him away from other horses. He was a handful, but no one got rammed, run over, kicked or held up by him, because regardless of his other faults, he could stop, go and turn when asked.
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