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post #1 of 20 Old 09-18-2011, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Bad influences

I'm a real hardass when it comes to the care and wellfare of the horses where I live. I may not be their owners, but I am extremely particular about whom I deem good enough to take care of them, feed them, walk them, excercise them, etc.

When I work with horses, or with any specific one of them I try to gain a bond with them, and get them used to how I am instead of having multiple people doing different things than what they are used to. Take Tana for example. I love her to tidbits, and I am working extremely hard to undo what her previous owners have done, and I tend to dislike very much, when others come up to her, make comments on her behavior, or even try to "help" me handle her. Mind you, this is only when dealing with people who I don't feel are competent to work with any horse, let alone, the one I bust my butt over.

I try not to give her treats, yet the owners spoil her still by tossing bread every now and then out to the horses just to 'see them react.' It makes me angry.

Bringing her out to the practices I know will make me extra irked, because the more people around, the more tension she can bounce off of, and the more tension she bounces off of, the more angsty and uncontrollable she becomes. But it is a necessity for her to learn so I am willing to take that risk.

Tana's not my horse, but I know her a hell of a lot better than most of the people I work with so I don't know if I have the say so to tell them to go away and leave her alone if I feel they are becoming more of a nuisance than a help. A pat or two will be good but there are some people that I work with who might do something on purpose that they think is 'wise.'

I've probably gotten off track, and made an extremely long post, but. Has anyone else had any 'bad influences'? And if so, how did they deal with it?
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post #2 of 20 Old 09-18-2011, 09:07 PM
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What harm, exactly, does "tossing bread" do?
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post #3 of 20 Old 09-18-2011, 10:14 PM Thread Starter
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There's no harm, but Tana is spoiled and I try to pull her away from the spoiled lifestyle. She's also very... high strung when it comes to her food, and thus, causes issues amongst the horses when they take 'her' piece of bred.
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What exactly is your standing with this horse?

But I know what you mean by bad influences I was sick and during that time the BO had travelers with basic horse knowledge feeding and rugging. All the horses manners went downhill badly and Ella being the difficult mare she is we're still trying to fix it.
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I work with her so as to have her be a bit more managable with her spooking, and to get her to a healthy weight and mentality aside from being a 'pet.'

There is a girl who goes to the practices who is 14, and likes to think she can mess with the horses while the riders are on them. I don't mean just a harmless pet, but smacking them on the bum, tugging on their tails, etc.

2/5 horses are spook proof. And she normally messes with those two seeing as those are the ones we use more often.

However. She generally gets in the way doing thigns she's not supposed to, and I worry for my safety, the horses, and herself that she's not going to listen to what I say and thus, be a bad influence. Especially the younger children that hang out during the practices.

I could tell her off easily, but I'm not entirely sure how to do it in a 'diplomatic' way of which would get her to listen, especially anyone else.

But aside from Tana, the entire equine team are in charge of taking care of all the horses especially in the winter. I don't necessarily trust some of the people to do things correctly, and be able to take care of things without being hurt. I worry that due to my past sternness with tardiness, laziness and overal slothful behavior that I have witnessed, that things will be left undone as soon as I move out to my own place and am not able to make sure said things are done.
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post #6 of 20 Old 09-19-2011, 03:24 AM
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Well personally I think you are being a little pedantic, for lack of a better word. The bottom line is she is not your horse so really its not your place to "deem" who can care for her. If she is truly a safety concern then I'd inform the owners and not keep her around others. You can be all the hardass you want about horse care - but if it's not your horse you are just going to come of rude.

Situations that make her feel uncomfortable can be tricky at first - but they are good for training. As far as kids running around - I'd talk to the manager about making it a rule they are not allowed around horses while ridden. I'd tell the 14 year old girl not to do whatever she is doing.

You can tell people you are working with Tana and that you'd prefer if no one else did as it may confuse her, and that is reasonable, but to be honest your attitude really rubs me the wrong way. Other people are learning, this is their hobby, their fun, relaxing time, and you are just calling them lazy and slothful? Who are you to judge? So what if they are "tardy"? How does being tardy effect horse welfare? She's a horse, not some kind of delicate flower. I think there is little worse than a horse that can not be handled by everyone.

If they can't handle this horse without getting hurt, then either these people should not be allowed around horses unsupervised, and you should notify someone of that, or this horse is not safe to handle and she shouldn't be kept in such a situation.

Why don't you look at things from a different perspective? Each time these people do something you don't like with her it puts that little bit more experience on her, and you can see how she reacts so you can help fix the problem so she is safer for everyone. If they try to help just say you'd like to do it on your own, but just try and be nice. Its not hard to be nice, it doesn't cost you anything and it will end up getting you a lot further. You have an opportunity to become friends with these people, to teach them and to share knowledge. If you are kind, and they respect you, then you can help them become to "competent" horse people you like.
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I just personally don't care for dealing with people as much as others. I treat people the way I do things myself, on time, and ready to go, I shut up and listen and do as I am told. I will admit it, I am a bit OCD about certain things.

My 'Deeming' is just a personal viewpoint on the people I work with. I don't particularly care if I come off as rude, or strict, and as much as I may not be owning the horse, I at least spend the time and energy to work with her when people only pass her off as a useless animal.

The more people involved in something, the more chances something can happen. The less control there is to prevent an issue.

When people are late, it causes EVERYONE to be late, and I for one, would prefer to get as much time to work and better myself than have to rely on someone else who didn't take the time to prepare and get to the place on. time.
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post #8 of 20 Old 09-19-2011, 03:34 PM
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I'm confused. What exactly is your job title and how does it relate to these horses as far as responsibility?

You want the truth? You can't HANDLE the truth!
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post #9 of 20 Old 09-19-2011, 03:46 PM
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We can all tell your OCD from your post. I dont like being late, but unless these peoples jobs directly interfere with yours, I would take a deep breathe and remember, people do things differently- not better or worse. It is hard when things are not up to your standards, but it doesnt mean it wont get done properly. Before I speculate further, I'd like to see the response to Speed Racer's question as well.
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post #10 of 20 Old 09-19-2011, 03:50 PM
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Yes Let, that's what I'm waiting for, too.

I need an accurate picture of the situation before I can offer an opinion.

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