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        10-16-2013, 02:12 PM
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    Bad "Trainer" What To Do

    So first and foremost, I'm on here because I've been pretty hormonal lately, and am more apt to yell first and ask questions later, and I want to make sure that I should do something first before I potentially alienate people I don't want to alienate.

    So here goes, these are all somewhat related issues. First, I know a rescue, keep in touch with them etc., and recently they posted that a 2 year old Quarter Horse mare was adopted by a trainer. Well I am pretty sure I know the "trainer" mentioned, and she is not anyone I'd want near my horses. She has lamed a friend's horse, running barrels every time she gets on the horse. The owner doesn't ride, so it's nothing the owner is doing that is causing the problems. This "trainer" doesn't care if the horse is sore or not, she'll still go galloping around the barrels, and when she rides this is apparently all she does the entire time she rides. No walk trot canter type work, no warming up, just straight into galloping barrels. I wouldn't put it past her to "train" this baby and then instead of giving it back to the rescue, going behind their back and selling the horse to the highest bidder. She's also only 17 or 18, no one is really exactly sure of her age. So do I send an anonymous e-mail to the rescue just basically saying that I've seen and heard lots of bad things about this person, so really make sure you check her references, or do I just leave well enough alone, and hope that this "trainer" is nicer to this horse than she is to my friend's horses?

    Second issue, the friend who has this "trainer" working her horses, just recently got a baby, supposedly somewhere around 20 months old. She says that the previous owner has no idea how old the baby really is, they just guesstimated her at 20 months old. She posted about 4 days ago that whoever else is it she has training this horse, (not the same trainer mentioned above), is now riding the horse, and in her words exactly "I am so proud of my yearling, she was ridden for the first time today, and was so amazing." I asked her about it, and how old the horse really was, and she freaked out and said that "Oh, she's 2, the vet looked at her teeth and said she was 2". I'm betting money the vet has never seen this horse, this person never calls the vet out, no matter how many times people have told her she should when she asks what she should do. She also said that she'd talked with the trainer at the barn she's boarding at, and discussed the baby, and they all agreed that as long as she's brought along slowly, its fine. Well, she posted a couple days ago, and again yesterday about how nice the horse's trot is, and how good her not yet 2 year old (again her words) is. So obviously if she wants to work the baby that young and that often, no one is going to be able to talk her out of it, but I feel like by not saying anything, that the baby is going to get injured, or develop problems, and that I didn't try hard enough to get the owner to realize what she was doing. Like I said in the beginning, I've been really hormonal and moody, and I see these posts, and just want to post a scathing reply calling her out on it, even if I know it's not a good idea, so again, is there something I could say, or should say, or should I just leave well enough alone, and just try and ignore those posts. They come from several different people, so even if I were to unfriend one person, I'd still be seeing these posts. Thanks! I just hate to think that horses are going to suffer because these people I know are not treating them right.
         
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        10-16-2013, 02:23 PM
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    The rescue must have some kind of system to check out the homes to which they give horses.
    I think mentioning something to them is probably risky. The horse world is small, and what goes out will come back to bite you someday.

    So, be hormonal, but punch a pillow instead.
         
        10-16-2013, 02:28 PM
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    Lol I may just have to go do that. We've been trying to get pregnant, so on the one hand we take this hormonal stuff as a good sign, but at the same time it's messing with my mind lol. I really don't want to alienate people, and like you said, small world someone will eventually probably figure out it was me who said something, and I don't want that to happen. I would just like to have some sort of sanity back, and not be feeling so crazy, and snarky when I see things I don't like or agree with. It's just hard to sit back and hope that the horses don't get hurt.
         
        10-16-2013, 07:14 PM
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    Ahhh so she posted a video of the "trainer" trotting the not even two year old around barrels, and this is only the 4th time someone's been on that horse. I'm going to go punch a pillow now!
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        10-16-2013, 07:29 PM
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    I hate to say it, but this happens more often than not. In many disciplines its common to start them before they are two. Many of them break down young, and develop arthritis in various places. It sucks, but its life. Say something to them directly if you have to(and don't mind burning some bridges), but you arnt going to get far. The number of people who start horses way young, over work, over bit, blow their minds and break them down is huge. At auctions here certain sellers will bring 10-20 head a year and just run them through, with a note saying broke but sore. They are worked hard on cows, starting at 2, usually at feed lots on concrete. These are all qh's, and all 5-10 years old. The meat buyer gets the whole lot.

    Life sucks, all we can do is take care of our own, and try not to pay attention to the bad ones.
         
        10-16-2013, 07:58 PM
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    Trained
    You just have to ignore it otherwise you'll get ulcers or something. There is yahoos here that do the same thing, word of mouth however, does go a long way.
         
        10-16-2013, 07:59 PM
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    That is so depressing.
         
        10-18-2013, 12:04 AM
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    I guess its harder actually knowing the person, and having met her horses. I know that lots of people work them too young, and I see the results with the 14 year old horses that end up at rescues because they are unrideable due to bad arthritis, or old injuries, so the owners don't want them anymore. It's just a little bit of a detachment when they come into a rescue and I read about them, or I see the posts of the horses at auction, but to know someone who really doesn't care even though she claims she does, makes it hard.

    It also sucks not having my own horse at the moment to go out and hug, and see is getting treated right, and just go for a ride to clear my head. So it just kind of builds especially after seeing all her posts and videos, and knowing she's going to end up with a mess down the road. But some people just don't want to listen, or need to learn for themselves, and as I'm one that also has to learn by doing and making a mistake, I can't blame someone else for being the same way, and no amount of pleading, or talking, or yelling, or pointing fingers is going to make a difference, it's just going to leave me even more frustrated. So I've got a handy pillow, and a mmorpg where I can kill things to get over it.
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        10-21-2013, 11:15 PM
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    Update, so after the owner getting a lot of flak for riding the horse, the previous owner (and I'm assuming breeder) now claims that the horse is 25 months old, so convenient lol, seeing as she had no clue before now supposedly. Its just so sad how this person is sooo stinkin proud of how her not even 2 year old is in her words "already saddle broke, and acts like a teenager". But you know for every "bad" owner out there, there are many more good owners that do know what they are doing and are wiling to do what is necessary for their horse's health and well being.
         

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