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post #11 of 65 Old 12-12-2012, 11:18 AM
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Ahhhhh people are always like my horse follows me around, he loves me so much!!! Its like my horse follows me when I pick up poop in the pen, outside when I have already fed everybody. In the barn, when I have him saddled and bridled. I can even say woah when im in the barn not facing him and he will stop square in his tracks, then give a smooch and he will be on my butt again. He will follow me up the barn steps and through a human sized doors. After I feed everyone he will come up to the gait and just stand there until I leave. He follows me EVERYWHERE... MY POINT IS... its not magical. I think its funny when people are so proud their horse follows them to the food, and you never hear the end, but my horse follows me everywhere and I don't ever tell anybody because its not that wonderful LOL.

Ill have people come out and my horse follows them around too and they are so simply amazed...sometimes I think if only I can get him away hahaha
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post #12 of 65 Old 12-12-2012, 11:22 AM
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I think every horse person would like to kick Walter Farley and Margaret Henry for leading non-horse people to believe that there's some magical bond that you have to have with your horse.

I think the ones that bother me more are the ones who won't control/reprimand their animals (horse or otherwise) because they "might hurt them." My sister has a monster for a Chihuahua because of this mind set. A lady at my old barn was livid with me because I smacked Aires' butt when he tried to kick me. She even went so far as to try to spread a rumor that I abuse my horse.
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Casey, horses follow people because they're naturally curious and it gives them something to do that's not part of their routine day.

Mine like to hang around when I'm doing stalls, spreading manure, or fixing fence. I tell them, 'Unless you suddenly grow opposable thumbs and start helping me, y'all need to stay out of my way!'

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I agree with this 100%. I'm even beginning to hate the word "bond". When I use that word I am not talking about some "Vulcan mind-mild" to quote Speed Racer. (Funny stuff btw lol). I'm referring to that point where you are working well together with your horse. I'm about to the point where I want to take the word "bond" out of my vocabulary and come up with something different.
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I think the ones that bother me more are the ones who won't control/reprimand their animals (horse or otherwise) because they "might hurt them." My sister has a monster for a Chihuahua because of this mind set. A lady at my old barn was livid with me because I smacked Aires' butt when he tried to kick me. She even went so far as to try to spread a rumor that I abuse my horse.
This. Drives. Me. Insane. When people don't discipline their animals. But then ask why mine are so wonderful and listen to me..

Or my favorites is that I have a lady at the barn and she thinks she knows everything, she doesn't ever do anything about her horses behavior.... Guess whos horse is in training right now because the horse misbehaves so badly... and has gotten that badly out of hand.

When all it would take is some come to Jesus meetings

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post #16 of 65 Old 12-12-2012, 11:34 AM
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Speed racer, that's what im trying to get across to people, that its not magical and a lot of peoples horses do that (not because they have this bond)
They are like cows when you ride by on a horse:




hahahaha

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post #17 of 65 Old 12-12-2012, 11:35 AM
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It isn't just that people will dump a horse if they don't get a magical bond. Too many believe that 'bonding' is the way to control a horse - and I find that scary.

On a recent thread about bitless riding, I was told:

"if you have a good relationship with your horse it shouldn't matter whether you ride with or without a bite......just my opinion..."

"I think it doesn't matter what you ride in , in the end its about "does your horse trust you" and if he does than you have the world"

I tried pointing out that my mare & I get along quite well for two different species. If she is hurt or scared and sees me, she will come to me to make the bad thing go away. We've had 4+ years together, including quite a few challenges. It isn't a mystical bond, but I am certain I'm her favorite human. But that doesn't mean squat if we start cantering down an ATV path and she gets excited. I can't do some Vulcan mind-meld via my butt and take control of her.

The effectiveness of a bit or the various bitless tack as means of communication can be debated, and that debate doesn't matter for this thread. But when I saw a Parelli YouTube video the other day and he asked the audience something along the lines of "How many of you want a great relationship with your horse? How many want to be able to get your horse to obey because he wants to", I turned it off.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a willing partner. I think most of us want to get our horses there, if they aren't already. But if you want to stay safe, you need a horse that will obey even if they don't want to. My horse doesn't understand what would happen to her if she was hit by a car doing 60 mph, nor does she know in advance where the roads are where that could happen. If she gets excited enough about something, I'm not sure she thinks at all. The bond I need is that I provide the mind, and she provides the muscle. Then we are both doing what we do best.

I do agree they have various personalities, and they need to mesh. If your horse doesn't match your needs - too hot-blooded, or too lazy, or he just doesn't like you (and my Appy gelding tolerates me, but nothing more after 4 years), then selling might be the right option for both. Note: the females in my house adore my Appy gelding, and he thinks they are great, so he stays. None of the females in my house have ANY desire to ride my mare, but she stays by MY vote.

But someone who seeks to own the Black Stallion will probably end up like the woman who seeks the perfect husband, or the man who seeks the perfect wife - lonely!

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I'll be the first to admit that I used to think that way. I've since grown a brain and figured out that if I don't make this 1000lbs animal respect me, I'll be in deep trouble. Unfortunately for some people, it takes them getting hurt for them to realize that they created this monster...and even then they don't always get it.

The first time I reprimanded Aires in front of my old BO, he actually applauded me.
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I can't do some Vulcan mind-meld via my butt and take control of her.
This trick could be very handy, let me know if you ever figure it out. Might require a lesson from Spock...
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post #20 of 65 Old 12-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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One of my best horses I got at about 14 , someone dumped him in the farriers pasture and nobody could catch him. So if I could catch him, I could have him. 3 hours later I caught him on foot with a lead rope where cowboys with a lasso on horseback had failed. He was fast, agile, and smart, so he made an awesome barrel horse. He had his days where he was wary about being caught but I would sing to him and he'd let me grab him. This totally impressed one of my cowboy friends and I caught him humming to his horses as he fed them. I'd never say oh, we had a special magic bond that no one else can touch. I was just a very determined kid, and that set the tone. I can't say I ever had to smack him since his only bad habit was bolting with inexperienced riders that thought it was cool to kick and muscle him. I just knew his quirks and I wasn't taking no for an answer.

I hate the trend these days where people seem to think that only a humungous horse will do, and I've seen people give up their trusty mounts for a tall horse simply.because it seems to be in style. I can understand that not every horse has the talent to make it to higher levels but I get tired of seeing ads by people who probably dont know one end of a horse to the other insisting above all other things that the horse.must be at least 16 hands
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