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    12-12-2012, 12:58 PM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Nightside    
I hate the trend these days where people seem to think that only a humungous horse will do, and I've seen people give up their trusty mounts for a tall horse simply.because it seems to be in style. I can understand that not every horse has the talent to make it to higher levels but I get tired of seeing ads by people who probably don't know one end of a horse to the other insisting above all other things that the horse.must be at least 16 hands
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I know this is off-topic and I don't want to derail the thread - but AMEN! Of course I understand for some disciplines you want a larger horse, but not all! I have to keep giving myself a shake because I'll start feeling self-conscious on my little 14.2 arab cross. But she had a great mind, she's more than capable of hauling my ass around, and any issues are purely esthetic. Selling her because she's 'too short' would be a huge mistake on my part.
     
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    12-12-2012, 12:59 PM
  #22
Weanling
What aggrivates me is that people see you having fun, out riding or messing with the horse and think it's like a toy. What they don't see is the thousands of hours of manure scooping, pasture cleanup and maintenance, grooming, groundwork, construction of horse-related buildings... someone else said it best, a horse is not a 4-wheeler!

It aggravates the heck out of me when my horse tries to follow me around while I work, too. Nuts to any "magical bond", I don't want to feel a whiskery nose on my butt when I bend over to pick something up. I pen him up - let him watch from the gate! (he does)
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    12-12-2012, 01:13 PM
  #23
Trained
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
...Mine like to hang around when I'm doing stalls, spreading manure, or fixing fence. I tell them, 'Unless you suddenly grow opposable thumbs and start helping me, y'all need to stay out of my way!'
A few months ago, I was setting railroad ties into the corral to slow erosion. My mare - the one I cannot control with my 'bond' - came over. She snorted a few times into the trench I was digging, looked at me as if to say 'There is no hay in there'...and then started pawing at the end of the trench with her front hooves. Not very effectively, but she tried very hard and it was very cute.
     
    12-12-2012, 01:18 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by EmilyJoy    
No kidding, a person also cannot just jump on a horse and ride like "John Wayne" without having the know-how...A horse does not act like a four-wheeler!

My now ex tried that once. He was always making comments about how easy riding a horse was compared to his racing. (he was a pro racer) so one day, he does a flying run and jumps up onto my horse from behind. What followed was him finding out that John Wayne was jumping onto desensitized horses and must have had more "skill" then he thought necessary.

Thankfully, he was on the ground, over a tall fence before she ran out onto the road. Also, thankfully, she was caught and was fine or he would have died that day regardless of living through the initial flying dismount.

Horses are horses, not Hollywood fantasies.
     
    12-12-2012, 01:31 PM
  #25
Yearling
     
    12-12-2012, 01:50 PM
  #26
Super Moderator
When I was in the 7th grade I drew this picture of a black stallion and I pasted it to my wall. I still have the picture, on the back it says...

My dream horse is a pure black thoroughbred arabian stallion named Black Fury.

What really cracks me up is that I obviously thought that thoroughbred meant pure-bred! What I find really funny is that Riley's (my horse) dad was a black stallion (QH) named... Fury!

Anyway, I got my first horse Pistol at the age of three, he's almost 29 now. He was a rescue case and when I say that, I mean it. He was several hundred pounds under weight and had been beaten pretty badly. He has a permanent scar on his withers from an ill fitting saddle and one on his face from an abscessed tooth that blew out the front. When I got him, I wouldn't let anyone ride him because I wanted a "one man" horse. I also would not discipline him, for anything, ever. He was abused you know... He was a rearer which I thought was really awesome so I slapped a command to it and reared all the time.....

What I ended up with was an ornery old cuss whom I love dearly and I do truley beleive we have a bond or a connection or something, but it comes from being together for so many years. He knows me, he trusts me, I know him, I trust him... we are a team.
     
    12-12-2012, 03:48 PM
  #27
Started
I think there is a balance to be struck. I am not saying that hugs and kisses and butterflies are 100% correct, but some horses need a softer approach to training and work. You can be soft without being a push over. We need to have a line between spoiling and being soft. If you have a great relationship with your horse then fantastic. Its all about perception. I think we have all seen horses that we say "I am so glad I don't have that POS in my barn" and the owner thinks the sun and the moon rise and set on this horse. I have seen horses be really sweet to people who are totally clueless. I think to myself "its like the horse knows they are stupid and is terminally nice and not taking advantage". The owner says "he did X,Y and Z because we have a magical bond and he knows I mean well". I stood at the fence and said "I have no effing clue why he did not kick you 8 ways to sunday for what you just did". The conclusion, I have come to is that there are really great horses out there that allow people to believe they have this bond. The trouble is that there are horses that are nothing short of amazing. People think they are the rule and not the exception to the rule.

I think what I tolerate less is the "black stallion" syndrome and more the spoiled horse. I see a lot of people who get a horse (or dog) as a substitute child. They say "he was abused" that's why he misbehaves. No, he is spoiled and that's why he misbehaves. I hate those words "He was abused". We saved him from X,Y or Z, don't be mean, you will scare him as the horse takes off dragging them behind. Lots of horses, dogs, cats and people come out of horrible situations they manage to be lovely members of society. This is because they learned the rules. You don't have to be mean and abuse your horse but you can set rules. Firm but kind.

I am perpetually yelling, poking and cursing at my horse as I clean the run in shed. I have explained to him that I DO NOT need his assistance. If he really wants to help me clean the shed he can go poop outside! This is normal but the neighbors think its adorable when he follows me around the pasture. They say you have a good bond. No, I am the only gig in town and something new to attempt to play with.
     
    12-12-2012, 03:55 PM
  #28
Trained
The problem is that the techniques in the movie only work on black Arabian stallions. Not QH's or TBs or even Arabians of other colors.

Where's Druydess with her handsome fella when you need her.
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    12-12-2012, 05:07 PM
  #29
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Rookie - I'm with you. Some horses do need a firm hand while others do so much better with treats... It's interesting how they are like children the way the react to certain methods...
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    12-12-2012, 05:12 PM
  #30
Green Broke
There is a giant difference between using correct training methods for horses as individuals and " my whittle horsey and I have a spweshal bond(horse proceeds to drag owner through manure pile)"

Dancingarabian, if you ever find a video of someone trying "black stallion" methods on a black Arabian stallion, let me know. Could be amusing to watch :)
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