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post #1 of 35 Old 06-05-2009, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
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Angry Blehh.. This kind of upset me - Flash nosebands...

I was reading through one of my "horse dictionaries" (yes, 'one of'...I own many =P) and I happened to glance at the tack section and noticed that under the explaination of the usage of a flash noseband this is what it said:

"...The flash noseband should also be attached tightly and securely. You should not be able to fit any fingers between the band and your horse. The noseband's purpose is to strap the mouth shut to prevent the horse evading the bit."

That is not what a flash is used for. If you have to strap your horse's mouth shut to prevent him evading the bit, then you need more training than your horse.

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post #2 of 35 Old 06-05-2009, 08:12 AM
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What is a flash used for? Might be a dumb question, but I've never used one...
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post #3 of 35 Old 06-05-2009, 08:42 AM
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Actually it is one of it's uses: Noseband - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I don't know about western but in english riding

The Flash noseband was developed because you can't attach a standing martingale to a drop noseband. The original use has been forgotton as the noseband has become more popular and is more or less nothing more than a fashon accessory with few people knowing the truth.

I get many people remarking to me that they are finding it harder and harder to find a bridle without a flash attachment.
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I don't know about the origin of the flash, but I have used it on my girl to keep her from chewing excessively. She is in training and I find she is able to concentrate more on me when she doesn't get carried away with mouthiness. Although I don't put it as tight as that article says; I can definitely get a finger in there. My goal is to lose it entirely before too much longer and we are getting there. But boy, oh boy, it sure has helped with this gal.
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I do know the origin of the flash and I use one as well ( without a martingale ) as I find that it helps with the bit position in my mares mouth , and I do think they look better than a drop.

As with ALL saddlery the right equipment fitted badly is the wrong equipment .

If people think the description of a flash is bad look up a KINETON
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That IS one use of the flash noseband but you just don't see people using it like that. I always have at least one or two finger spaces in between it and my horse's mouth. But I believe that was one of the reasons it was originally developed.

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Here is a great article Jim Wofford wrote about the Flash:

Coercive Trainin Equipment - Jim Wofford
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GREAT article by Jim Wofford. I wholeheartedly agree with him when he states "A tight noseband is a vain attempt to disguise the fact that your horse is not ready for the things you are asking him to do." That's why, if you use a flash, don't tighten it all the way! Leave some room for your horse to chew. I will continue to use my flash but I have never ever put it to where the horse can't chew. It's basically just a part of my bridle but my horse doesn't necessarily need it.

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Well, that's what I'm saying. They're telling to you strap the horse's mouth shut. So tightly that you can't even fit one finger in there? Are you kidding me?

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