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post #31 of 35 Old 06-11-2009, 12:39 AM
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The Kineton or Jobey noseband has a reputation for being harsh.
It gained this by being refered to as a Last Hope noseband - that which was used when all other options had been exausted, on tearaway horses.

As with all pieces of tack from a $5 leadrope to a $10,000 harness if it is not understood or used incorrectly then the person using it needs to re-educate themselves .

A horse should, if handled and trained properly, never get to the point of having to need a Kineton.

Another noseband that I have only ever made one of is a Beucephalus .
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post #32 of 35 Old 06-11-2009, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nutty Saddler View Post
To Ohmyitschelle

If it aint broke don't try to fix it

I used to ride a bsja showjumper in a kimblewick and a grackle , it was the combination that he liked and was what worked for him.
Any correct piece of saddlery used badle is the wrong piece of saddlery , and by the sounds of it you aren't using it wrong. For those who try to dictate the cavesson only I would say - why have a noseband at all.

Yes, I completely agree, unfortunately we don't ever fall free from others' opinions. I patiently explain why every time I'm questioned as to why and then have people ask what bit he's in... which is a JP Korsteel Oval Mouth Eggbutt Snaffle, which is incredibly soft and is double jointed, and he loves that too. I think if it makes the horse their happiest, and it's not really harming, I don't see why not.
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post #33 of 35 Old 06-11-2009, 03:27 AM
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If anyone complains about you having a grackle noseband show them this

This is JOHN WHITTAKER , maybe they have heard of him ? . If you look closely his horse is wearing , wait for it , a GRACKLE !.
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post #34 of 35 Old 06-11-2009, 04:53 AM
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Haha I know grackles are a great trend at the moment, a lot of people are using them for the look they have as a lot of jumpers use them, and more and more are turning up in dressage. Thanks though, I know of John Whittaker.

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post #35 of 35 Old 06-11-2009, 12:36 PM
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Sadly, that's what many people use flashes for.
In my experience, I've never had to use a flash. I just don't think they're necessary. And if I did, I'd never tighten it to the point where it was cutting off the horse's circulation and his nose was turning blue. Flashes and grackles have a time and place, but enough people misuse them to give them a bad rap.

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