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post #1 of 78 Old 04-03-2011, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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Angry Boarding at a "friends" (vent)

Well since im in the process of building a barn im boarding at my "friends". So here's the story, I use to board at a boarding stables. But in FL it's not exactly cheap, so when I started thinking about buying a 2nd horse my friend (that I met at a horse show a few years back) offered to let me keep my horses at her place for a low board. Since she doesnt board to the public or anything, she just had some open stalls and was helping me out. Well it's been about a few months now and i'm starting to have serious problems with my "friend". I have my own farrier, and vet, and when we agree'd to my horses staying there I made it very clear. I'll arrange my own appointments, and take care of my horses. Instead of letting me bring out my own farrier she had her's come do my horses . She proceeded to have him put shoes on them, I never shoe my horses, I see no reason to. The only riding I do is mostly arena right now, so I always kept them barefoot.

So after she proceed's to tell me about having her farrier come out and shoe my horses she hands me a bill for $205!!! I asked her how in the heck is 2 horses 205 dollars, she said he charged 80 per horse for the trim/shoe and then its a $45 trip charge O_O. I told her I refuse to have to pay for something I never authorized, and now she's threatening to kick me out of the barn. Im just beyond tick, what kind of friend does that! When I boarded my one horse, when the farrier came out the trip charge was divided between the borders. I honestly don't see why I should pay anything, let alone the full trip charge when I never told her to have him do it. Then when I asked her why she would put shoes on them, she said "the farrier recommended it". I've never had a problem with my farrier telling me they needed shoes, and then she refuses to tell me who did there hooves. The problem is if she does kick me out of her stables, I wont be able to afford to keep both horses :(. I just want to shoot her, not to mention I got to pay my farrier to come out and take the darn shoes off. It makes me worry about there safety, since this woman is losing her sanity . I was hoping to get ahold of the farrier and tell him I never authorized him to come out and there not her horses. What makes me want to cry is im stuck there until our barn is built, and right now we honestly don't know when that's going to be finished :(.

Sorry its so long, just had to get it all out.

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post #2 of 78 Old 04-03-2011, 10:13 PM
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You know I never did "boarding at friend's", but I've seen several times it went very wrong with other people (and to be fair the problems usually come from both sides). I'm glad I never had a chance to try it!

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You know I never did "boarding at friend's", but I've seen several times it went very wrong with other people (and to be fair the problems usually come from both sides). I'm glad I never had a chance to try it!
you should totally try lol, it's so much fun

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Maybe you could come to an agreement this time and split the bill, just so that you keep it friendly?

Was there a name on the bill she handed you?

Sounds like you both need to have a really good talk about what you both want. And it would be smart to put that down in writing.
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post #5 of 78 Old 04-03-2011, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
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Maybe you could come to an agreement this time and split the bill, just so that you keep it friendly?

Was there a name on the bill she handed you?

Sounds like you both need to have a really good talk about what you both want. And it would be smart to put that down in writing.
Nope no name, it looked like she made the bill out her self (with a receipt booklet you get a local store) :/. My hubby says just pay her, I feel like if I pay her im saying that what she did was okay, and it most certainly is not. Im also concerned about paying her directly, my farrier charges no where near that, nor does he charge a trip "fee" because he's in the same county as where my horses are. Im afraid she's trying to charge me double or more than the farrier charged her to make a profit. Why else would she not want to tell me who did the farrier work?... Idk it seems weird to me that she wont tell me who did there feet.

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Wow, it's not the bill that would have me seeing red so much as the critical decision that was made regarding my horses hoof care IN MY ABSENCE!

Ugh, never mix friendship and business, it wouldn't surprise me if she thought she was doing you the world's biggest favour, I think you should try and talk to her about it and bring up your concerns in the most frank and polite way possible to avoid any further conflict.

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Wow, it's not the bill that would have me seeing red so much as the critical decision that was made regarding my horses hoof care IN MY ABSENCE!

Ugh, never mix friendship and business, it wouldn't surprise me if she thought she was doing you the world's biggest favour, I think you should try and talk to her about it and bring up your concerns in the most frank and polite way possible to avoid any further conflict.
I couldnt see straight when she told me I was so heated. The sad part is after a long talk trying to "reason" with why I was upset she still doesnt understand what the problem is! This is my first time dealing with a friend as a "barn manager". Let me just say it'll never happen again, she thinks what she did was perfectly ok. I told her there not her horses and I will deal with there medical/hoof care and to please not do anything of the sort again with out my knowledge. Then she just rudely goes, drop it and just pay me the money....

The other sad part is it's only been a couple days and she wont stop calling and harassing me about it. I told her after paying board on the 1st I don't just have an extra 200 bucks right now. So today she called my husband at work about it!!

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Sounds super fishy to me... I would be livid if someone did that to my horses!! What if the farrier had quicked your horses and made them lame by shoeing them? By her doing that without your permission, she opened herself and the farrier up to a big liability. I wouldn't pay her a red cent without seeing an original bill from the farrier, and then I probably wouldn't pay more than half of the amount on that bill, if I could bring myself to pay anything at all. Ideally, your so-called "friend" should pay for her 'mistake', as well as your imposed bill for having to have a farrier come out to take the shoes off and repair the damage that she caused!

I would also immediately get a contract in WRITING signed by her that states the terms of your boarding at her facility, and clearly stating what she IS and IS NOT authorized to do with your horses on your behalf. That is the best way to protect yourself from any further incidents if you find it necessary to continue boarding there until your stable is finished.

I wish you the best of luck in dealing with this situation!!
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Sounds super fishy to me... I would be livid if someone did that to my horses!! What if the farrier had quicked your horses and made them lame by shoeing them? By her doing that without your permission, she opened herself and the farrier up to a big liability. I wouldn't pay her a red cent without seeing an original bill from the farrier, and then I probably wouldn't pay more than half of the amount on that bill, if I could bring myself to pay anything at all. Ideally, your so-called "friend" should pay for her 'mistake', as well as your imposed bill for having to have a farrier come out to take the shoes off and repair the damage that she caused!

I would also immediately get a contract in WRITING signed by her that states the terms of your boarding at her facility, and clearly stating what she IS and IS NOT authorized to do with your horses on your behalf. That is the best way to protect yourself from any further incidents if you find it necessary to continue boarding there until your stable is finished.

I wish you the best of luck in dealing with this situation!!
Thanks. I just feel so naive not to get a contract in the first place, I didn't think a "friend" of several years would do such a thing. That was my biggest mistake, trusting her in a business matter without legitimate documents :(.

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I can understand you being upset...anyone would be. She had no right to do that at all and that should be one of those things that you don't actually have to tell people. It should be just good ole' common sense. You don't go around getting other peoples horses shod, plain and simple.

That being said, however, I think you would be wise to consider at this point that she has all the power. I believe that if you don't pay the bill, then she will make you move your horses. You really need to take that into consideration.

If it were me, I'd agree to pay the bill in its entirety, but only if she will sign a contract stating that all decisions regarding vet and farrier care will be made by you. If she is unwilling, then you will have to decide that either you will have to deal with that kind of crap from time to time until your barn is finished or that you can't deal with it and need to move your horses.

Sorry your in this predicament.
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