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    11-13-2010, 10:09 AM
I've tried researching the brand my Morgan cross gelding has on his hind quarter. I can't find anywhere online how to contact the state, It goes to the University of Vermont website (Equine Law). Do I just contact them? I was told he was from NY but we are in Michigan, so could there be a nationwide contact?
Thanks, I didn't mean to hijack thread but I was going to post this anyway.
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    11-14-2010, 06:05 PM
I personally think it is cruel to brand horses . Imagine if they did it to you.
    11-14-2010, 06:52 PM
^^That's why freezebranding is becoming so popular. It doesn't hurt them.
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    11-16-2010, 09:11 PM
Originally Posted by myhorseriesen    
i personally think it is cruel to brand horses . Imagine if they did it to you.
What about branding cattle? They brand them so they can be easily identified if they are stolen. Horses are livestock so, why not brand them too? Sure its going to be uncomfortable but I think the benefits make it worth it.

Sorry I just get annoyed when people have the " omg poor we lil ponys" attitude...
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    08-25-2015, 03:25 PM
I was looking at this old thread about branding.
Some people say it is not worthwhile but here are a few considerations.
One is horse rescues. I know of many rescued horses which were rehomed with strict buy back clauses and no slaughter clauses that have ended up at slaughter auctions. One horse it happened to twice! The horse is a nice horse.
Another issue here is that if there is a natural disaster, earthquake, wild fires,hurricanes, flooding etc, you and your horse may become separated. You want your horse back ASAP and if you have a brand and your horse has been rounded up with other horses from the disaster in a big pen the people dealing with the animals can get your horse back to you much faster.
The stolen horse issue goes without saying.
I microchip but you have to be hands on with a scanner to read a microchip. A brand can be read at a distance even with binoculars!
There are people on the ground at a lot of auctions spotting for horses that don't belong there. Once a horse gets there they are often very hard to catch and handle. Nobody is going to look for your microchip. They will see your brand though.
So I am considering freeze branding. Having rescued some good horses from slaughter I want to make sure they never go back there
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    08-25-2015, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by myhorseriesen    
i personally think it is cruel to brand horses . Imagine if they did it to you.
Having them terrified and killed in a slaughteryard is far worse than a freeze brand. If a person cares enough to make this investment to try to keep their horse in their good care I am happy. We send tens of thousands of good horses to slaughter every year. Slaughter is inhumane. We spend a terrific amount of time pointing fingers at other countries for their inhumanr treatment of animals and the big game hunting when we can't even bother to fix the horse slaughter problem in our country. Sure we currently don't slaughter horses in this country. We sweep the problem under the carpet by shipping them to Mexico and Canada. Shame on us. If you want yo talk about inhumane turn the full force of your disapproval on horse slaughter. Freeze branding is mostly about keeping your horse out of that system. Believe me, if your horse is stolen it isn't so somebody can pet it and feed it carrots. The horse is going to Mexico to be stabbed in the neck with knives and turned into meat. If you don't believe me read what Temple Grandin says about horse slaughter
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    08-25-2015, 05:05 PM
Can someone explain to me how branding keeps any horse from being sold to kill buyers at an auction?

Brands are really hard to trace (just check any of the threads on HF of people trying to find out where their horses' brands came from... I don't think I've seen a successful one yet) and to my knowledge auctioneers are not required to make any effort to compare the horses at auction to any list of reported stolen horses. Even if you were able to successfully trace a brand, it only tells you who registered that brand, not who currently owns the horse.

I really think microchipping is a better alternative. The microchip is a unique identifier that can positively identify a specific horse and its registration can be easily updated to reflect changing ownership. Some breed registries already require them, and The Jockey Club recently announced they're going to start requiring them in 2017. If the other larger registries like AQHA, APHA, AHA, etc also follow suit it will make sense to start pressuring auction houses to scan for microchips.
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    08-25-2015, 05:27 PM
My vet says that freeze bands are more gentle I suppose and they last long. I have horses that have both types and the freeze band does look alot cleaner and easier to read.
    08-25-2015, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by verona1016    
Can someone explain to me how branding keeps any horse from being sold to kill buyers at an auction?

When any livestock, including horses, shows up at a border or an auction with a brand, the person with it MUST have a brand inspection. The paper provided by a brand inspector is essentially the title to that animal. No title? The animal(s) are held until ownership is verified.

This only works if you operate in states where brands are respected by law. Vanity brands (those with someone's personal initials, or some picture they think looks western), brands that are put on for looks in places where there is no registry are useless.

Oh. And people do get brands on themselves. Hot brands. Then an abrasive substance is rubbed on the healing brand to promote keloid scarring. The raised scarring that some people do naturally.
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    08-25-2015, 08:22 PM
Green Broke
Im looking at angle branding out horses. Its like the blm brands but instead of the "u" for the blm it will ethier hand a symbol for their registry or state. Since non of our 5 horses are registered it would be the symbol for az.

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