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        10-28-2012, 09:48 PM
      #61
    Green Broke
    Op honestly why are you so against adopting a foal in need? You can get one unhandled and in the long run you still havr your mare, you got your foal and you don't havr to go through the heartbreak of actual breeding.

    Go through the breeding threads, on of the well educated breeders on here had 2 marea abort early, another had a foal die due to a disease passed from his lines, another had to sell her colt because he became dangerous because she didn't know whay she was doing etc. Is it truly worth it?

    Think about your mare do you love her? Is it worth putting her life in danger? Is the stress and heartache of watching your mare/ foal die in front lf your eyes truly worth it?.....
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        10-28-2012, 09:53 PM
      #62
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    I know adopted horses that were adopted as babies and they're just as attached to their owners as ones who were born to them!

    It would be so terrible if you lost your mare or the foal! ):
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        10-28-2012, 09:59 PM
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    Oh baby lust! A healthy foal is wonderful. Visit your friends foal in a year, when it turns into a demon spawn (I am only sort of joking). Everyone hangs out with a foal and thinks "its cute, if it was my foal it would do this, and that". Its very appealing. That's why you have to sort of sit back, take stock and say "is this the right time". Make a pro and con list and a budget for anticipated expenses. Lock your heart in a box and think about if its the right time.

    In my opinion it might not be the right time to breed. You are young and the economy (the horse economy in particular) is really, really bad). You are planning to breed her this february right? With an 11 month pregnancy, assuming you have the right light for her to go into estrus and ovulate, you would be looking at a January baby 2014. Which means winter foal, which means gah weather. Which means a heated barn or a very cold winter foal watch. Which means storms and can the vet get there in an emergency?

    There is nothing wrong with breeding, as long as you have a solid plan. Which in the current bad horse market, with a back log of horses and a premium for hay its harder to rationalize it. Which means you need to think past foal names and focus on making your mare something worth breeding to. What breed of horse is your mare? What do you plan on doing with the foal? I ask these because a lot of that will dictate the market. 5300 is that covering stud fees as well? What about board? Who will foal out? What if its a stud colt? What about weaning?

    I am not wanting to rain on your parade but when you breed you bring a life into the world. In my opinion, if you make the decision to bring a life into the world you need to make sure its cared for. The mare did not ask to be bred and the foal did not ask to live you made those choices. You need to make sure they are the right ones. You brought it into the world and you need to be there to take it out of the world if it comes to that. In the end its your decision, we don't mean to judge we just see a lot of horses (many of them from situations not dissimilar to the on you are in) end up making that one way trip to mexico or canada. Or the trainers end up with half wild 4 year olds that were once adorable foals that then became dangerous. What I am saying is pardon our rudeness, it comes from a good place. We are a bit burned out on the number of horses in the world that don't have homes and are turned out to starve.
         
        10-28-2012, 10:04 PM
      #64
    Yearling
    The thing that many people forget in their preparations for the cost is... What do you suspect the foal will cost in feed, vet and care for the next 38 years or so? Do you have plans for the foals future or is it just fun until it gets too costly? Then what? This isn't a Teddy Bear that you can just send to the Salvation Army or something. Once you bring a life into this world, YOU are responsible for what happens to it. If you sell it and things go wrong and the new owners decide to starve it or abuse it or sell it for meat... YOU are responsible.

    That is a lot of responsibility to take on for anyone, much less someone so young. I would suggest you give a bit more thought into purchasing a weanling of the breed of your choice (IF you can afford to do so and care for... forever) This way you can also have the pride of saving a life instead of creating another that needs care when so many others don't have any. Just a thought.
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        10-28-2012, 10:08 PM
      #65
    Yearling
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        10-28-2012, 10:09 PM
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        10-28-2012, 10:14 PM
      #67
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Lexiie    
    I know adopted horses that were adopted as babies and they're just as attached to their owners as ones who were born to them!

    It would be so terrible if you lost your mare or the foal! ):

    The thing is, for me, babies do not care or love their person. They care about momma and milk, and that's it.
    The rest is us just being sappy.
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        10-28-2012, 10:18 PM
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    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    The thing is, for me, babies do not care or love their person. They care about momma and milk, and that's it.
    The rest is us just being sappy.
    I agree with you. I guess what I was trying to say is that I see no difference between the way a foal born to someone and a foal adopted behaves toeard their owner.
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        10-28-2012, 10:19 PM
      #69
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by NBEventer    
    It worries me that this is our next generation *sigh*

    Seriously if your first language is English and you are 17 and not able to know the difference between bye and buy. You should be spending your money on a tutor, not breeding your horse.
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    Save your money, get a tutor, learn how to spell. Learn how to contribute something more to society. Then talk about breeding.
    well let me repeat in detail of what I said before: I HAVE TROUBLE SPELLING AND READING! It is not something I can just stop or fix to stop your hate. Spell check does help but sometimes I forget. You can't change the world my friend. And spelling has nothing to do with breeding horses or training them or anything to do with raising a foal!

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    And if you come onto a forum going "what should I name my foal?" sounding like a 6 year old child. Well. You are bound to get ripped to shreds and you obviously still have a lot to learn.
    On that note I walk away. This is just stupid.
    just because I ask 'what should I name horse?' does not mean I am acting like a 6 year old! I will be with the horse for a long time and I want to choose a name that I will like.

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    I still find it interesting that you say your 17 but you have poor spelling and punctuation...In my high school, if you have poor punctuation and spelling they just through your paper away and give you a zero on the assignment/test/quiz.
    again, I can't help the fact that I can't spell.


    In general, why don't you people tell me more about foals (an addition to what I know) rather than telling me that I can't spell, know nothing and I am acting like a child. Be mature.


    I might be a new person on this forum but that doesnt mean I am new to horses. I have had horses all my life. I have seen and delt with the kindest horses and the horses that are set out to kill you. I have done showing with horses and miniature horses. I want to breed Glory because, as I have said, I want to see my mare have a foal, see it grow up, and train it to be the best horse this world has ever seen! When I got glory, I was told that she could do everything, but it turns out she couldnt do anything. I was the one to break her. She is now the ultimate trail horse and friend. The stallion I will be breeding her with has the same kind temperament- a big Love. I have met the stallion and the foal will definitely be a cuttle bug! At the barn I work at there is a foal that I have watched grow up. The owner would be happy to answer any questions, and why not take the opportunity to ask questions on here?
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        10-28-2012, 10:27 PM
      #70
    Trained
    Ok folks, time for Kayty to put on her moderator hat here.

    I have closed this thread as it is going in circles. All that needs to be said has been said.

    OP, though it seems as though people are attacking you here, please remember that it is for your own and your mares/potential foals well being.
    Breeding horses is a terribly risky business, even professionals with decades of experience and all of the right facilties run into problems.
    I'll never forget witnessing the birth of the most stunning little hanoverian foal. It became stuck and the poor mare was in agony. The foal passed away, and the vet was forced to cut it into sections, to remove it from the mare. Mare had foaled successfully with no complications twice prior. It was just bad luck. The mare never fully recovered and was put to sleep a few months later.

    Please be careful when thinking of breeding your mare.
         

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