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post #1 of 28 Old 12-03-2012, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Buying an older, already trained horse vs training a youngster yourself

I was just wondering, those of you who have trained \ do train your own youngsters are there any real pros to breeding your own youngster or buying a yearling from a stud vs buying an older, experienced already trained and "ridden in" horse?
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post #2 of 28 Old 12-03-2012, 12:36 PM
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I personally prefer to train our own, ya we send them off the first 30 days to get a handle on them as I don't have the time to do that part. But that is the ONLY thing we send them off for. We do the rest of the foundation, and starting them on the pattern.

I want to be able to have a horse I can train to how I like them to work, run, ride, ect. I don't want to have to learn how to ride a horses style and such, because I have my way that I want a horse to go along. I also like the feeling that I trained the horse and did pretty much everything except the first 30 rides.

Now if your a person that doesn't know how to train a horse....I say they should buy a finished product. Because it is a lot of work, and you can't cut corners and it takes time and you need to be experienced enough to do it.

That is just my personal opinion.....
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My first question to you is what experience do you personally have in breeding, raising a foal, and training a youngster? If you say none, then your best bet is to buy an already trained adult.

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I'm in the same boat of training my own. It depends on your skill level honestly.
I find breeding for a foal yourself is really the worst option though. You don't know what you're going to get, male or female, dominant or gentle, strong willed or quiet. Then you have to wait a year for the birth, wait for them to be weaned, at this point you can start short 5-10 minute leading sessions, but can't do much actual ground work until 1 1/2, but really the attention span doesn't come until 2-3 years and you can't ride until 3-4 years depending on the horse and then you have to take things exceptionally slowly.

I adopted my mare, 7 year old draft horse untouched. She's been magnificent, I didn't have to wait for anything, just train her up and go. Adopt/purchase 4-7 year olds is my ideal option, if they have basic manners down all the better. The horse is more ready to learn, mentally and physically.

Trained horses are fantastic to buy, but it's not all that often you can get a horse that you don't need to untrain and retrain again before they're useful in what you need. Unless you're looking for high class competitors.
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Sheep, breeding your own is a preference to what you would like to do..
Personally I have bought an older horse and I have raised and trained now going on three horses..
I prefer the raising and training by self rather than buying an already grown established horse...Because you get more of a bond and a connection w/the horse.
You can buy a great horse too and have a connection but its not the same..And if it ever does become the same it takes a few years to get that.

I had a Arabian gelding I trained from 1yr old, another Arabian but mare I started at four...Kept both horses for fifteen yrs..
Now working w/a four yr old Appy I just acquired.
I've had one that I bought that was 11yrs old..I ended up selling that horse five yrs later without missing..The ones I worked with and raised I think of them everyday.
So yea its a preference if you have time I would say do it yourself.
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The only pros getting a youngster (IF you are NOT experienced) IMHO are 1) you learn A LOT as you go, 2) while people may not agree I believe in a deep bond if you handle a horse since a very young age. However there are many more cons if you don't have experience dealing with the young horse and training in general. Speaking from my own experience here.
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Please don't start with the, 'you get a MUCH better bond if you raise it from a foal' nonsense. Because that's all it is, nonsense.

Time and shared experiences create a bond, not because it's a baby.
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My first question to you is what experience do you personally have in breeding, raising a foal, and training a youngster? If you say none, then your best bet is to buy an already trained adult.
This is the most important part. If you have the knowledge to train them yourself (or the budget to have a trainer help you every step of the way), then it's all a matter of your own preference.

Personally, since I have the knowledge, I prefer to train all my own instead of buying one already trained. With me doing all the training, then I will know exactly what the horse has been trained to do, what they haven't, what their triggers are if they have any, and they simply don't have any baggage. Whenever I ride a horse that's been trained by someone else, I'm always wondering "When will I come across the snag in their training that gets me hurt?"

Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
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...Time and shared experiences create a bond, not because it's a baby.
In the military, I was told "Shared misery bonds a team!" I asked if that meant we were going camping together...

Turned out the answer was yes.

I think my mare Mia and I are developing a pretty good bond. Lots of shared misery along the way, but it has been the tough times that prove and develop a commitment. I'm not saying good times don't help, but horses are pretty smart in their own way. At some level, they understand that the tough times are the ones that prove you care.
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I think the biggest difference between raising a foal or training a more grown up horse yourself is that with foals things are forced to go MUCH slower and there is much less room for mistakes. Older (4+) untrained horses are much more forging IME than a foal, and whatever issue you created you have a slightly easier time fixing in an adult than a foal. That's just my experience, but the wait is the biggest reason I avoid foals - I'm so not patient enough for babies :P They're good to have in the background to work on when you already have another horse to ride/work with regularly.
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