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        05-21-2013, 06:28 PM
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    Trained
    I'd much rather buy a horse that has been started slowly and correctly, but already trained in my discipline.

    I have A 6 year old made that has no previous training in speed events. Its going to take me the next 2 years, minimum, to train her to compete to win. It'd be so much easier to buy something already trained. But, I'm the type of person that doesn't like doing slow work. I want to run and win. You can't have it all though. It'll be worth it in the end to train her my way and then win later.

    If I was into reining, I'd buy a finished horse and continue working with a reining trainer. Or I'd send the horse to a pro trainer for X amount of months to get them to the point where I can take over...
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        05-21-2013, 06:33 PM
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    Trained
    How many months would it take to get a solid start on one?
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        05-21-2013, 06:35 PM
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    Trained
    Depending on the age and foundation originally put on the horse, 3-6 months would be a good start.
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        05-21-2013, 07:40 PM
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    Trained
    Cheaper than buying!
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        05-21-2013, 07:43 PM
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    Trained
    ^^^ lol, the key word there was "start"
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        05-21-2013, 08:03 PM
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    Trained
    GH-There are times I wish I had spent the $$ and gotten a "made" reiner. But, here is the deal. I really don't like that so many of the are started WAY too young. I also would feel obligated, if I spent that much on a MADE horse-to show it. For that you need $$, and to pay a trainer.

    I opted to get one and put some reining training on it. I have little desire to show, but after 7 months of reining training-if I want to take him, I can. I will not win or place, but I will have fun and that is all I personally care about. I also have a horse who does NOT have to live a a trainers or be maintained as many do, for months out of the year....at at least $1K/mo. I put about $6k worth of reining training on mine, and he has a great 'handle". He does not spin so fast that I, at my elderly age, fall off, since I can no longer even swing on a swing without being dizzy.....he does, however, do it correctly. He and I are just as happy out on the trail as we are anywhere, which I cannot say for my friends $20K reiner, who lives in a heated barn, has his tail numbed, so of course can never go outside....etc...etc....

    I have spent enough, between all the trainers, to have bought one. But-I have also learned a tn along the way. About him, as well as myself, as well as good horsemanship.
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        05-21-2013, 08:37 PM
      #17
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    I have a finished reiner......best $$,$$$ I ever spent because the horse was started and trained properly and in a discipline that requires DISCIPLINE. I think because so much emphasis is out into the whoa, the speed (fast and slow) and the use of the whole body that these horses are a good investment. My horse can go reining, trail riding, games and I even think I could throw some English tack on and go dabble on the dark side.

    The best thing about my horse is his attitude and the fact that he's had a clutch installed and he has three sets of brakes.....voice, seat and reins as an emergency brake.....I never worry that my horse is going to run off with me....love my horse!!!
         
        05-22-2013, 03:54 PM
      #18
    Trained
    Aghh, after having decided that I was happy with my herd, this has thrown just a huge great spanner in things. You know all those people who have horses they love, but maybe wrong for them, I'm probably one of them

    I really really like the horses I have, and no way can I get yet another one, unless my lottery ticket comes up.

    Soooo, here comes another list

    1) Lessons, I am taking lessons on Ben, and will be starting with Emmy as soon as I can, and that helps. Ben is so green that progress is slow, Emmy knows a lot, but I don't know if she will calm down enough to show it. Maybe I need to juggle the time and money around to go have lessons on a school master to improve my confidence.

    2) Training, I would love to send someone for more training, but who and for what? Ben is obviously staying English, and looking at his transitions to canter, which he always bucks his way through, I'm wondering if a better rider than me should ride that out of him. For Emmy it would be getting some hours and getting braver, but I'm so scared that the wrong person would set her back, rather than bring her forward.

    3) Selling sounds so drastic, but should I look at my age, experience and limitations, and find something that just fits me now....AGHHH again. This isn't even necessarily about the whole reining idea, but life in general.

    4) If I wanted to compete at reining, sometime in the future, I see a whole 'nother bunch of expenses, with trainers, practice areas etc, at home here I can't justify putting in an arena with suitable footing, and hauling out is such a pain, and could be a huge distance.

    I shouldn't have gone you know, I am all unsettled now
         
        05-22-2013, 04:11 PM
      #19
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    Quick note GH - footing for a reining arena is not too complicated, solid packed smooth clay base with a mix of sand/dirt on top. Can't remember the ratios and depths but its not hard to do. When I have time I will get back to you!!
         
        05-22-2013, 04:13 PM
      #20
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    Aghh, after having decided that I was happy with my herd, this has thrown just a huge great spanner in things. You know all those people who have horses they love, but maybe wrong for them, I'm probably one of them
    Please don't burn me for this, but honestly it's about what you want.

    Do you want nice unfinished horses that you have to bring along and have to always be 'ontop' or in terms of behavior and confidence?

    Or do you want a nice finished horse that you can focus more on improving your riding and confidence?

    Honestly if I had the money and the means, I'd still keep Sky and I wouldn't get another finished horse.. I'd get him training and me lessons and save the rest of my money for vet fees and stuff. I wouldn't have energy to take on another horse because I'd be riding him so often and working and stuff. But that's me.

    You have at least 4 rideable horses: Ben, Emmy, Willow, and Ace. They are all at different levels.. plus you have Angel and Cody.

    Figure out what you want to do with them, and then ask yourself if parting with them to find them amazing homes is what you want, or keeping them and bringing them along is what you want.
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