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        05-24-2013, 11:47 AM
      #41
    Foal
    I'm a rider who doesnt like fixing other peoples mistakes. Imve rode plenty of finished horses but I love knowing that it was me who taught my horse.
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        05-24-2013, 11:53 AM
      #42
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    I'm just wondering now what a boring hotse is, and why so many of us want one, and why my spell checker is quite happy with it.
    I think a "hotse" is one to send out to a trainer. : )
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        05-24-2013, 07:20 PM
      #43
    Weanling
    I guess I will input :P

    I have one finished horse and one very green horse.

    I prefer my green horse over my finished one and would probably never buy a finished horse. The only reason behind that statement is that I don't show. I have no desire to compete at higher levels, or anything higher than a schooling show for that matter. I would feel like I was completely wasting a finished horse if I had one.

    I believe that finished horses, in a certain discipline, should be used to their full potential in that discipline. I would not use them.

    My finished horse has some bad habits that I can't really train out of him. He is older and retired now, but we had a lot of limitations due to how he was trained. He was doing higher level eventing before I ever got him and is extremely hot on a cross country course. Rearing and the like. Behavior that I would prefer not to deal with. He also doesn't do well in wide open spaces, constantly fights you and wants to run. He is all about speed and it drives me insane. No matter what you do with him, he doesn't get it. Also with his jumping, he won't let you moderate him. He decides when to take off, he decides where to take off, etc. You can't shorten or lengthen his stride. He has a shut up and hold on for the ride type of attitude.

    My greenie on the other hand knows nothing. And by nothing, I mean literally nothing. He was track trained and had no idea what rein aids, leg aids, or anything like that were. I have put 5 rides on him so far and am having so much fun with him. He is a joy to ride and is learning so quickly. I like the idea of being able to train him the way I want him trained.

    Because I am not an avid show-er I get more enjoyment out of learning to train a horse than from riding a trained horse. If I do show my greenie, it will be to show off how great he is and to promote OTTB's. My goal with him is to show people that a 3 year old OTTB can be an amazing horse. He is calmer, more responsive, and easier to ride than my 24 year old, fully trained gelding.

    It is all about where you are with your riding and what you want to do. I wanted to learn to train and have a project to show for it. So that is what I am doing. If you want to show and win, then a trained horse would be the better option of course
         
        05-24-2013, 08:26 PM
      #44
    Trained
    Lots of interesting thoughts, I like seeing all the differing views, and good thoughts on both sides.

    I suppose deep down with me training or lack of training, it comes down to confidence. The reining mare just made me feel good, and I trusted her straight away, and that is what I'm missing, a horse just to get on and ride, no ifs, buts or maybe's.

    Ben is safe, but soooo green, and I'm still looking at his bucks and wiggles as he tries to canter on the lunge, and I wonder what he will be like under saddle, I'm sure it will improve as he uses his body properly.

    Emmy has at last stopped running through and crow hopping into her canter transition, she is now doing beautifully, will be time to ride her through them soon. Of the two of them I would rather send Emmy out for more training, if I could find the right person that is.
         
        05-24-2013, 08:27 PM
      #45
    Trained
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    I think a "hotse" is one to send out to a trainer. : )
    LOL and lol again
         
        05-24-2013, 11:25 PM
      #46
    Showing
    Like many others have said, it all depends on your own preferences and how much work you're willing to put into the whole deal.

    Buying a made horse is certainly nothing to be ashamed of and there is a whole lot to be said for a horse that you can just throw your saddle on, swing aboard, and have them be the same as the last time you rode...solid and steady, regardless of whether you last rode them 2 days or 2 months ago.

    God knows that for all the enjoyment I get out of riding greenies, it feels so good to just be able to get on old Dobe and go for a ride without having to worry about anything. Or when I know I've got a job that needs done, I know I can count on him every time.

    Either way, you'll likely have training costs every year because a made horse will need to get tuned up occasionally in order to remain at the level they're at now.
         
        05-25-2013, 12:21 AM
      #47
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    I think maybe I have to wonder if I have reached the age that I should be riding boring hotses
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    IMO, you are looking at it all wrong. Riding horses should never be boring, just less frustrating! I have no problem with leaving out the brain damage! I vote finished horse!
         
        05-25-2013, 01:24 PM
      #48
    Trained
    Lol I don't mean boring, Hollywood was well trained but she would not be boring. Sane, well trained, sharp, not a dead head
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        05-25-2013, 07:41 PM
      #49
    Yearling
    I ride greenies for other people and ride my own finished horse. I have far more fun on my horse, but it was me who finished her. So if I bought another, I'd get a greenie (or totally unbroke), and finish it myself. I'd rather get a completely green one going to the way I want from scratch than sort out other people's mistakes. Plus, I can get more horse for my money if I buy something nice, but that doesn't know anything.

    (buying something like a finished Prix St. George horse is, of course, a different ball game but not likely to be one I can afford)
         
        05-26-2013, 10:18 AM
      #50
    Yearling
    I think it's mostly about what you enjoy riding, when your not having fun anymore it's time to step back and take a look at things. I can say that I have more fun on the finished horses I've owned showing wise. You don't have to worry about things just show, even riding their reliable. Some were bought or already finished when I started or some I finished.
    Buy whatever makes you comfortable, there's no shame in buying a push button horse. Especially if it's in a discipline that's new to you, you need to focus on you and your riding not a green horse making mistakes. Prospects are fun but you never really know what your going to get. It's a gamble and some advance more quickly than others. I was lucky with my gelding, he learned quick and pulled me checks from the start while getting faster in the divisions. While the last one I bought we weren't the best match for one another. If I had the money I'd pick one at least started just so I'd have an idea of how their going to do.
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