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post #1 of 7 Old 11-06-2013, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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Cactus Not Accepted

In August of this year we sent our soon to be yearling filly, Cactus, to my uncles to learn some manners. She was there for about 3 months and did great! She leads and loads like a pro, respects your space, picks her feet up (still need to work on a biting problem, when she gets frustrated!), she is finally up to speed to where other yearlings are. We decided to let her spend the winter in the pasture with our other horses (her mom) instead of in a stall.
So the big day came, we took her back home, let her out of the trailer, she looked around for a minute and then she realized where she was, she saw her mom, Sage, then she saw Lady and Cowyboy. She ran to them, and then it happened! Sage ran after her (we knew that would happen, Chance was only 6 days old), but Lady charged her and chased her across the entire 50 acres! And has been chasing and biting her ever since. It brakes my heart, it was like they forgot who she was. She has been there for 2 weeks now and she is still not allowed in the herd. Lady will not give her a break. We put Cactus in the round pen to eat and Lady circles the pen like a shark stalking her! Of course we don't allow this, but this us what happens.
Do we just give it more time? Should we move Lady as she is really the trouble maker? This is affecting our interaction with Cowboy, he is getting stand-off-ish.
Just looking for suggestions and advise.
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post #2 of 7 Old 11-06-2013, 02:39 PM
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It is the nature of horses to adjust when a herd member leaves and then to be anxious when they reenter the herd. Horses are disturbed by new or reunited members of a previous herd bc they want to know where they stand in the pecking order. Your horse, "Sage" saw this as a opportunity to move up in standing and THAT is more important than a previous herd relationship.
My DH doesn't understand this. If I can send my QH gelding to my farrier/trainer for driving training next year he will be gone for several months. I cannot return him to the herd right away EVEN THOUGH there are only 3 horses in it. I will need to turn him out next door to his old pasture "buddy", let them smell and reacquaint themselves and then school them together for a few months before I can turn them out together. I made the mistake of putting "Corporal" (1998-2009, RIP) back in the herd while being gone about one year, with the same herd leader, "Tyke" put him over the gate and he had scars from this until the day he died. I didn't want to do this but my DH was Absolutely sure that everything would be ok. That was in 1997, and I take NO such chances with my new horses now. The only time I didn't have a problem was introducing Tyke, but he was the toughest horse I have ever MET/owned, though I didn't know this at the time. HE broke down the temporary enclosure between him and the herd, beat up the spastic herd leader and took over.
We did a lot of buying /selling many years ago and had one enclosure with the option to use a stall or temporary turnout over the fence. You have to do this right or the weaker horse suffers.

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Thank you for your reply, I guess since she was only gone for 3 months I was expecting too much.
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Thank you for your reply, I guess since she was only gone for 3 months I was expecting too much.
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It doesn't take long. Last mare we bred was gone for only 8 days, and we still separated her for a couple days just to let things get back to normal before turning them out together.
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had to read the OP twice to get the situation right lol. So you have two mommas with foals, and took the yearling away and then back in. Well, she lost her status being gone. She is at the bottom of the pecking order, even lower than the small foal, foals have the status of their moms.
Can't do much about it, taking her out at that time was a mistake, you should have waited until weaning time for the other foals, then it would have been a piece of cake.
Now she has to tough it out, unless you have a " single" friend for her.

it probably would be a good idea to learn how to educate foals, the younger the better, yourself, to avoid more mishaps like this one.
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I sent a yearling filly away to be trained to load, clip, stand tied ,all those things I find to tedious to attempt. She was gone for two months and turned loose in the same pasture with the same horses. Her dam and all the other horses refused to allow her near them for nearly 3 weeks. She now grazes and eats with her dam again.
Give it time when she settles in all should be OK.
Even the donkey picked on her. Shalom
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I sent a yearling filly away to be trained to load, clip, stand tied ,all those things I find to tedious to attempt. She was gone for two months and turned loose in the same pasture with the same horses. Her dam and all the other horses refused to allow her near them for nearly 3 weeks. She now grazes and eats with her dam again.
Give it time when she settles in all should be OK.
Even the donkey picked on her. Shalom
Thanks DA, like I said I guess I was expecting too much. I'll give it a few more weeks. She is holding her own, she doesn't have any broken skin from the bites, so that is a good thing.
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