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post #11 of 29 Old 01-11-2013, 12:00 PM
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I can relate to your story as I am a 43 yr old beginner taking english riding lessons. I am relying on my trainer at this point to help me select a horse that will be a good fit for me and my family (my children also want to start lessons).
I think you should find an experienced horse person/friend or trusted trainer and let them guide you in your decision. I think you can find a horse that is trained well enough for you to have confidence (not be afraid of it), but still be fun and challenging as you learn. Good Luck!
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Heh maybe you should get into mounted shooting with your Saddlebred I would think THAT would be challenging enough!
Ha ha I would be ecstatic if I could just ride a country pleasure class !
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I'd have thought that saddleseat would be a lot more taxing & uncomfortable for someone with knee problems and short stubby legs but maybe I'm wrong - honestly not something I have any real experience of other than 'giving it a go' a few years back.
Its not something that we do in the UK - just a couple of places that do it and they have to travel abroad to compete
Western might suit you better but unless you want to compete you can trail ride (as we do) in english saddles and if you want to challenge yourself more (I would seriously die of boredom just going round and round an arena) then try anebels suggestion and look into dressage or on a completely different route - why not horse versatility competitons?
Anything will feel uncomfortable to start with - you have to build up and train all your muscles and ligaments to adapt to it.
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post #14 of 29 Old 01-11-2013, 12:23 PM
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It sounds as though you want to ride, but don't want to put the effort into it. You've made a few comments about getting bored once you have a "horse down" and couldnt pick up the aids in dressage so gave it up.

Riding horses is a challenge; a good trainer can make any horse challenging, even a dead broke one. You'll always learning when it comes to horses.
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I would defiantly try Western as well on the Saddlebred you have.

Western saddles are much more secure, and if the Saddlebred you have is fine (in the head/trained) and you get along with him otherwise I would try the western saddle. It might just give you the edge of confidence you need to work with him (saying that all his problem is, is starting a little faster then you want)...

It might give you more security to try going faster etc. because if he goes too fast instead of pulling on his mouth harshly, just grab a hold of the horn in one hand and work him down with the other.

Just my 2 cents! Hope it works out. I've heard that Saddlebreds are extremely intelligent so I would guess if you could work with the one you have, you'd probably be a happy rider.

My typing is slow... What everybody else says.

Yes they are extremely sensitive to your aids and intelligent.Trainers seem to think mine can't learn western because he is a little too quick.He tends to slow down a lot for me as well as kids riding him.Maybe they think a jog would be uncomfortable for him ??I have no idea. I have thought of that a lot of times.
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It sounds as though you want to ride, but don't want to put the effort into it. You've made a few comments about getting bored once you have a "horse down" and couldnt pick up the aids in dressage so gave it up.

Riding horses is a challenge; a good trainer can make any horse challenging, even a dead broke one. You'll always learning when it comes to horses.
Well maybe you're right.I do tend to run away from hard stuff .I do take lessons 4 times a week so I do work on it in this case
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I have to admit that I am confused.

The lesson horses and non-morgan/saddlebreds are too boring, but your own and other horses are too tough and scary. Which is it? Locking yourself into two breeds and refusing to consider others is, IMPO, stupid unless you're competing in breed shows. The right horse for you is the horse that can work well with you can carry you to or teach you what you need to learn.

If you can competently w/t/c on a 'boring' horse (Can you? What about leg yields, etc?) then you need to work on learning to confidently do the same on a 'quicker' or more 'interesting' horse. This is a one step/one stride at a time process, and can be slow. You're not going to get more confident in your ability to handle horses that aren't schoolmasters unless you ride horses that aren't schoolmasters, but are still hopefully well trained. You want to gradually up the challenge.

Dressage was too tough, so you dropped it. I'm 5'2" w/ stubby legs, an adult beginner and bought a greenbroke horse, and we work at learning dressage, so I don't buy that you 'couldn't' do it, just that the dressage lesson you took wasn't rewarding enough for you to want to go back. Which is valid, it's not for everyone and that's fine, though it could be helpful for most people in any discipline.

You don't need a new horse- it's not going to fix your problems. You need to work on you. What is it you want to get out of riding? Is it the time with horses you enjoy? Pushing yourself to master a new nuance of riding well? Seeing new country out on a trail? The thrill of speed? Figure out WHY it is you want to ride, then choose the right horse. You've tried a whole lot of horses and gotten nowhere, and that's just going to continue until you find out what you really want to get out of riding and then find the right horse for that.
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I agree w others, find a nice youth horse - skip limiting yourself to a given breed and find an unflappable old faithful that will make up for any mistake you make. Most everyone that started riding when they were small started on such a horse - parents don't ordinarily put a 3 yo child on an unpredictable horse. :) It doesn't matter if you are 3 or 300, if you need a solid "kids horse", then that is what you need - there is no shame in it. My first horse as a child was a grade mare that wouldn't have won any beauty padgents - but she could babysit all day long - bareback. I would have paid 10k to have her back to put my children on (or my husband). I am guessing that such a horse could eliminate your fears and allow you to progress.
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I agree with the others that you have to decide what you want out of all this, then make a plan for that. What do you enjoy most about being around horses?

Have you looked into learning western on a level-headed and smaller horse, then progressing into halter and Western Pleasure competitions? Western will help develop your control of the horse and your cues without needing long legs. Once you have mastered that, then perhaps you'll have enough experience to move into some of the other disciplines because you have good basics down.

It seems like you're skipping to step five and really wanting to do the ski jump when you've only been down the bunny hill a couple of times.
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To me it sounds like you need to build your confidence with these more challenging horses on the ground first. Ask your trainer to teach you how to work with your saddlebred or a more advanced lesson horse on lunging, voice commands, and general ground work. If you mount a horse scared, you're going to stay scared, and your horse is going to know it.

I firmly believe that riding starts on the ground.

You also say that you have the easier horses "down" -- what can you do on them? Walk/trot/canter confidently, comfortably, and correctly? Back, sidepass, stop, turn, etc? Can you gain control and stay seated if an "easy" horse has an off day or gets spooked? If not, you need to master it all before moving on to a more difficult horse.
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