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post #11 of 37 Old 12-31-2012, 07:55 PM
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I would of turned him in for insurance fraud.
I'm sure his insurance would have found out? Just curious because I don't remember this cause. Or I don't think I do.
What state was it in, Evil?

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post #12 of 37 Old 12-31-2012, 08:00 PM
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So, my friend bread her to a quarter horse...
I mean, "bred"

I would of turned him in for insurance fraud.

I know what you mean, Darrin. But we were thinking that if we pursued it or got the guy into trouble, next time he might just kill the horses instead of shipping them off.

Do you know who the owner was? Did AHA ban him?

I think it would be easy enough to find out who the breeder/original owner was, as we know the time frame and the name of the mare. I have pictures of her, but they aren't digital, so I'm not sure how to post them.
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Just a bit of advice - even if he says no, just keep it civil.
I know, I was only kidding. As much as it may piss me off, I probably wouldn't call him out.
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I know of a few people who sold horses without papers because they were going to sell really cheap. They don't want anyone to be able to breed or show a horse they got for next to nothing. I know it sounds selfish and childish but it is a fact. They will do it with dogs as well. Papers are flagged as pet only so there can never be any registered puppies bred or sold.

Don't be surprised if he turns down your request because you got a horse that was slated for slaughter and was taken off that track by someone else.
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Did Nell's previous owner send her to slaughter or to auction? If she was just at an auction, you can't say for certain she was going to be bought by a KB.

It's not all that unusual for someone to sell a horse, especially an ex-racer, and not provide the papers. If he didn't want her raced again, pulling her papers was the only way to insure that.

I wouldn't be vilifying him just yet.
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Did Nell's previous owner send her to slaughter or to auction? If she was just at an auction, you can't say for certain she was going to be bought by a KB.
I was told she went to a kill buyer

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I know of a few people who sold horses without papers because they were going to sell really cheap. They don't want anyone to be able to breed or show a horse they got for next to nothing.
Happens quite often, actually. I try not to say anything, but hell it pisses me off because the only one hurting is the horse.

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I believe restricting or not issuing papers is not uncommon in the US as a means of limiting reproduction; one of our Newfoundlands has limited papers, and the other one has breeding rights retained by the breeder. I heard that in other countries a horses papers belong to the horse, and can't be limited or destroyed by anyone. Not sure if it is true or not.
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post #19 of 37 Old 12-31-2012, 08:25 PM
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I was told she went to a kill buyer
So this isn't something you know for certain, then. Being told something that you can't verify doesn't mean it actually happened that way.
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If a horse is substandard for the use that it was bred for, a breeder might want to prevent future breeding to protect the reputation of the sire and dam of that horse.

Say you have a champion show horse. You breed him. All of his foals turn out to be show champions but one. That one is a dud. If it is going to shows and the owners are bragging that its sire is the formerly mentioned champion show horse, then other people might not want to breed to him.

You can't ride papers anyway. I wouldn't be that worried about it if it is just a horse that you want to ride and enjoy.

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