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        07-13-2013, 03:56 PM
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    Yearling
    Care/full/free leasing

    So I know the title says a lot of different things, but I know various people who cal this kind of lease by different names. For the simplicity of what I need to say here, I'm going to call it full leasing.

    So I have been doing a part lease on a lesson horse for a while, (almost a year and a half), and me, my family and my riding instructor believe it is time for me to move on to a more advanced horse. (pony). The problem is, there are no lesson horses available right now who would be an upgrade from my current one. Also there are no private horses available to half lease either. Because of this, we are considering a full lease so I can have more control and responsibility, in addition to being able to ride more frequently.

    Anyone who has experience with full leasing, more info would be greatly appreciated. I would like to hear of different people's experiences with this form of access to a horse.

    If you aren't going to answer the question at hand, please don't answer at all. It is a waste of both of our time.

    Thanks!

    ~ponyluver420
         
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        07-13-2013, 04:18 PM
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    Trained
    Good luck
         
        07-13-2013, 04:35 PM
      #3
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    Originally Posted by ponyluver420    
    If you aren't going to answer the question at hand, please don't answer at all. It is a waste of both of our time.

    ~ponyluver420
    I don't see why that was a necessary comment, but alas...

    I have never personally leased a horse, but it can be a great option for people looking to "have" a horse, but not actually own one. It's something that I wish more people would do instead of running out and buying a horse before they are ready. I have a friend who has been leasing the same gelding for many years, and he is basically her horse. Just under someone else's name. She is also leasing her pony out to a lesson program in a similar situation. It works great for her and both of the other parties.

    The way that I have seen free leasing work is that generally you would pay the full cost of the horse's regular care (board, farrier, tack, etc) as well as regular medical expenses, and most unexpected vet bills. Get in writing EXACTLY what you are expected to pay, what expenses the owners will cover, and what you are allowed to do with the horse. You don't want to be caught in a bad place if a sudden vet bill comes up and both of you thinks that the other should be responsible. Determine whether or not you are allowed to take the horse off of the property- you don't want to find out after the fact that the owner is not ok with you showing the horse elsewhere! Also, have in the contract what the protocol is for ending the lease. It isn't right to dump the horse back on the owner with less than a month's notice, but you also don't want to be stuck paying for a horse you aren't using for 6 months because you want to move on to something else.

    Basically it can be a great option, but get everything figured out before the issue comes up and have it all in writing. It protects both parties from getting saddled with unexpected bills, and you both know what you can and cannot do with the horse!
         
        07-13-2013, 06:10 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    I'm coming off what I would call a 75% lease (i go out any day I want but sundays when horse's owner rides) where I pay a set rate per month to the owner and have no other costs except things I may want to buy to use with the horse (gel pad for my saddle, a couple of brushes, horse cookies, etc). My current lease is at a barn of the owner's choice and I am not allowed to move the horse or leave the property with him.

    As of august 1 i'll be moving to a full lease that is slightly modified. My new lease will have the horse at the barn of my choice, I won't be paying any lease fee, but I will be paying for board, deworming, spring shots, feed, tack/equipment I want to use, and any other incidentals like that. I'll be able to ride and see the horse any day or time I want, but his owner wants to come out and have 'the occasional ride'. Farrier will be split half half with the horse's owner (he's full shod, so farrier is up there cost wise). Emergency vet is to be discussed tomorrow when we meet up to do lease papers, so i'll know then what to expect. Obviously, if the horse is injured due to my actions/negligence then I would be 100% responsible for the vet bill in that sort of instance, as that is only right and my conscience would not allow otherwise.

    I am going to ask in my new lease that showing off the barn property be allowed, if I ever would want to do that (i'm not a competitive type, but keeping the option open would be nice if I did want to). Trail riding off-site will be discussed as well, since there are some nice areas around here to trailer out to.

    One other thing to ensure you have in writing is if others (friends, family) are allowed to interact and/or ride the horse too. You don't want to put a sibling or friend up on the horse and find out from the owner that it wasn't allowed. I made sure with my current lease that my daughter was allowed to be led around the arena, but the owner did not want anyone else on but me otherwise. Understandable.
         
        07-13-2013, 06:48 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ponyluver420    
    If you aren't going to answer the question at hand, please don't answer at all. It is a waste of both of our time.

    Thanks!

    ~ponyluver420

    I have to say, that was a real turn off.
         
        07-13-2013, 07:07 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    Ok, sorry about that last part. Not having a great day and some people have replied to my other threads with stuff that is completely irrelevant or opinionated, and so not useful to my original question. Sorry about that, though. It really sounds rude now that I read it again.
         

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