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post #1 of 6 Old 06-10-2009, 06:53 AM Thread Starter
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catching problems ):

my welsh pony is...lets say, avoiding his mummy.


When I try to catch him he canters off. I can get either a metre away or touch him, it varies.



He has had different 'phases' of catching methods since I have owned him.

  • when I first bought him he used to walk half way and let me walk up to him.
  • after a year he would canter straight to the gait when I called and when he saw me (he lived alone, with a neighbour just out of his reach for physical interaction...this neighbour was a beautiful stallion if that means anything)
  • we moved him into a paddock with 3 other horses, he still cantered to the gate to meet me
  • recently he moved to SA with me, I couldnt imagine life without him, and he has 33 acres to share with 2 mares and 30 cows.
    - in a little paddock he was fine, cantered/trotted to the gate. - in the larger paddocks he came to me when I called but I still walked to get him.
  • LATELY, to his mummys dissapointment, he has begun running off upon my approach. He never used to do this, only a few times AFTER I had ridden him or fussed over him for a while and he had decided not to be caught again. Now its all the time :( I can, of course, catch him after a few times...usually by being very calm and not making any movements with the bridle/halter and just talking to him and stroking him on the neck.






What could be causing his change in behaviour?


I HAVE considered some things such as;

  • due to the size of our property I usually catch vince with a bridle and ride him home.
  • desire to stay and protect his little 'herd'
  • laziness
  • due to winter I don't get to ride much, and he has gotten used to this 'freedom'













How can I stop this problem?
Is there any little exercises?
Has anyone else had this problem, and how did you overcome it?













Gah help me :(

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post #2 of 6 Old 06-13-2009, 05:21 AM Thread Starter
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post #3 of 6 Old 06-13-2009, 07:21 AM
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i HAVE considered some things such as;
  • desire to stay and protect his little 'herd'
  • laziness
  • due to winter I don't get to ride much, and he has gotten used to this 'freedom'
In my experience, it could be any of these, or some horses even like to turn 'catch me' into a game they want to play with you.

As for what you call laziness, I've usually seen this in horses that have come to associate being caught with having to always work, especially if it is repetitious type training work (like in a ring). If this is the case, try breaking this association by going out with the halter/lead and just spending time with him, brushing, treats (though in general I don't like to use treats) etc. (no riding, no work), and progress to including 'fun' riding type work.

As for staying with his herd, once you catch him, does he come with you willingly or does he constantly want to stop while on the lead? If he comes willingly, being herd bound is probably not the problem.

As for the time off/freedom issue, this can be very common also, especially in younger horses, and it just takes patience and getting back into the routine to resolve (similar to going back and starting a young horse).

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In my experience, it could be any of these, or some horses even like to turn 'catch me' into a game they want to play with you.

As for what you call laziness, I've usually seen this in horses that have come to associate being caught with having to always work, especially if it is repetitious type training work (like in a ring). If this is the case, try breaking this association by going out with the halter/lead and just spending time with him, brushing, treats (though in general I don't like to use treats) etc. (no riding, no work), and progress to including 'fun' riding type work.

As for staying with his herd, once you catch him, does he come with you willingly or does he constantly want to stop while on the lead? If he comes willingly, being herd bound is probably not the problem.

As for the time off/freedom issue, this can be very common also, especially in younger horses, and it just takes patience and getting back into the routine to resolve (similar to going back and starting a young horse).



Thanks PHM

Laziness - good ideas, ill try those (:

Staying with his 'herd' - he comes willingly and all,

Freedom - he's 11, but what you said does make sense.





Well today I tried to catch him, didnt go too well. I had no intention of riding him as it was pouring down with rain but I just wanted to give him a feed and brush off the mud and spend time with him.

I got the bridle, and had the reins around his neck and he took off with the bridle dangling. I couldnt catch him and he was dragging the bridle through the mud and stepping on/through it. Every time I got close enough to touch him he kicked/bucked and taking off again.



It got to the point where I was in tears

Eventually I grabbed onto the bridle and undid the reins.




After this I just took a leadrope out to him and made a makeshift halter, this was difficult but easier than the first time. I led him around with this and then procceded to put the bridle back on. Much easier and he didnt try anything.








Gah!

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Is it possible to move him (or them) to a smaller area? 33 acres is big area to being chasing a horse down in.

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Is it possible to move him (or them) to a smaller area? 33 acres is big area to being chasing a horse down in.



Yea, the 33 acres is broken up into 5 largish paddocks, 2 medium paddocks and 2 small paddocks

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