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    12-01-2008, 11:05 PM
Oh wow. I did hear about this a while ago - was it the same horse that you used to own, Kelly?
Weird. I haven't heard many good things about the Mitchell centre.
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    12-01-2008, 11:36 PM
And I agree as well on the fact he did a lot of good for many years but in this situation (probably more than we know about)I know for a fact he knew the horse was dangerous but he disregarded it and had someone else ride the horse. With that I am furious.
I completely understand and I agree. There is no way they should have put someone on that horse, and then turn the blame on him. It is completely unacceptable.
    12-02-2008, 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Oh wow. I did hear about this a while ago - was it the same horse that you used to own, Kelly?
Weird. I haven't heard many good things about the Mitchell centre.
Here are a few pictures of him. Those were taken the first week I had him.

    12-02-2008, 12:50 AM
Hes really pretty and cute
But I guess looks can be deceiving! Was he good on the ground?
    12-02-2008, 12:51 AM
On the few rides I had on him he was actually dropped dead gorgeous. His gaits had a lot of suspension and always got everyone's attention.
    12-02-2008, 01:03 AM
I totally agree with you all but it does saddens me to hear that people say they wouldn't take rescued horses.
I think what has happened here is dreadful but I hope people will still take in rescued horses otherwise where would they all go?
I know we can save all but some are worth saving...
    12-02-2008, 12:26 PM
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Wow, that's pretty crazy! Rescuers have a pretty big responsibility. Not only do they take on the care/control of bettering animal lives, they need to also make sure that they are not dangering human lives by doing so. If a dog rescue picked up a stray and discovered that it repeatedly attacked people or other dogs, there would be a good chance it would either be put down or be considered unadoptable by the general public. Horse rescues should do the same thing. If the horse is a danger to people they need to either be put down or (more in this case) be sold as a pasture buddy and NOT a riding animal. Sure, some dogs/horses can be rehabbed by intense training from a very experienced trainer, but most rescues don't have those kind of resources. That's too bad that someone was hurt from their negligence. Glad you were able to get out of that situation M2G! He sure is cute though....
    12-02-2008, 02:31 PM
I agree that dangerous horses that can't be helped should be put down -- as upnover said, just as we do with dangerous dogs.

M2G -- I think it's terrible also that your first (maybe only) rescue was such a sour experience. Most rescues, at least the ones that I have spoken with, are far more responsible, even professional. Most will sign contracts fully disclosing health, behaviors, history as known and in turn the rescuer agrees to provide proper care and contact the rescue org back if the "adoption" doesn't work out for both owner and horse. Please don't hold this against all rescues. This is a bad, bad case and isn't the norm IME.
    12-03-2008, 01:31 PM
It all (in my mind) comes down to RESPONSIBILITY- if the original owner was responsible ie care, training=the horse would not have ended up rescued from slaughter AND if the rescue people were responsible neither you nor this fellow would have been allowed access to an animal with such issues. I udnerstand that the rescue sites need cash flow=but to sell an animal who is in this condition wether it be mental or physical problem is immoral.
    12-04-2008, 10:48 PM
This is probably one of the most controversial topics at the moment in the horse industry. Though I highly support horse rescue operations, I also am for the slaughtering of horses.

Just as seen with dogs and cats, there is more horses out there than there are currently people giving homes for them. With the economy how it is now, less and less people are able to continue to financially support a horse, so they therefor must sell it.

So what exactly are we 'supposed' to do with the excess? As much as some people believe it is possible, horse rescues and people are not going to be able to provide a permanent home for all of these horses. Now, just because many horses would be slaughtered in the slaughterhouses, doesn't mean that every one of those horses is a 'bad' horse. For some reason or another, they just became one of the many 'unwanted' horses.

The problem is, is that in alot of cases many of the horses had a reason why they became unwanted. Though I'm completely for horse rescues, I also believe that it is critical that caution is taken when looking in to getting a rescue horse. You have to remember that these horses came from that 'unwanted' population, or even rescued from neglect, which can result in some sticky situations later on. You could have a horse that seems like the perfect angel, then something triggers that past experience, and lookout. Now not every horse was neglected or abused that ended up as an 'unwanted' horse, but since the rescuers more than often have no idea as to the horse's history, there is no 'for sure' way of knowing.

It's definitely a tough topic. There are many great rescue horses out there that end up being amazing, well loved horses. You just have to remember you are dealing with a 'rescue' horse. It's been saved from a bad situation, and because of that it's to be expected that the horse isn't going to be the horse of your dreams. Though it very well could be.

It's really one of those topics that you have look at both sides of the arguement. Each side has a good arguement, it's just finding that balance between what's best for the horse and what's best for the human. Each horse is unique and has different experiences, good an bad, which should be handled separately. As the owner of the horse, they should be able to make a smart decision on what would be the best future for that horse, with safety of future owners in mind. But, though that's what 'should' happen, there isn't really a way of making it happen.

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