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    09-30-2009, 10:00 PM
Crowding at the gate.

What do you do when you're trying to bring horses in and they all crowd together at the gate (and try to bolt through)? I just realized today I've never had to do this beofre today. It didn't go so well and some ponies actually got out which freaked me out a bit. Anyway, everytime I went to bring another horse in, all of the horses were trying to get through the gate. I tried twirling the lead rope at them, telling them to back up, pushing them out of the way; nothing worked. It's seems like when they're at the gate they are fearless. I feel really dumb having to ask this but it was a big problem today and I don't want to let it continue to be a problem.
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    09-30-2009, 10:06 PM
I only have two horses but I take a lunge whip in with me and use it if needed.My horses are buddy sour so I have to be really careful when I bring one out,Because the other one will bolt out.
    09-30-2009, 10:17 PM
Our horses do that, but they know to get back when we tell them to. Sounds like your horses don't respect you enough to listen. All I have to do is swish a lead rope a little, and they're all, "*sigh* Fiiiiine."
    10-01-2009, 03:25 PM
It was my first day working at this barn so I have no doubt that they don't respect me yet. The only thing is, I don't know how to get them to respect me because with all of them crowded together they can just run over me if they want to.
    10-01-2009, 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Amba1027    
It was my first day working at this barn so I have no doubt that they don't respect me yet. The only thing is, I don't know how to get them to respect me because with all of them crowded together they can just run over me if they want to.
Yeah, but you don't let them know that. If you have to, take a whip out and "beat the crud out of 'em," as my instructor jokingly says.
    10-01-2009, 07:55 PM
^ Exactly. You just can't let them think for even one second that they should cross you. When I started working at my old barn the horses were horrible, no manners. They sure had manners after that first day. You just don't take their crap. I'd take a lunge whip or a crop out with you and if you need to use it. Better than putting yourself and them in danger by getting run over or horses getting loose.
    10-01-2009, 08:34 PM
Green Broke
When I was younger I kept my horse in share paddocks with about 15 or so other horses and come feeding time it could get pretty nasty.

The way I do it is to use a long natural horsemanship rope (12ft I think). I would go up to the gate, swinging at the horses that come up. The ones that keep coming I would literally push back with my hands. Then from the paddock side just open the gate enough for one horse and get the horse to walk through themselves, then spin their hind quarters and end up facing the gate. I have taught all my horses to "walk past me" so to speak, and gesturing with my hand and saying "walk on" is all I need. Some people say getting them to walk through gates on their own teaches pushiness but I never had this problem probably because I didn't do it on all gates and always required the horse to stand before I gave the command.

I find this is the only real way to do it - as you need to be on the paddock side to keep the others away.

Many people here have mentioned hitting horses. I would never ever do that in a group agistment situation. If someone touched my horse with a whip without my position I would be so angry. Walking at a horse with a rope swinging and then walking into them with the rope if they don't move is generally okay - a horse has time to step back etc but hitting them with a whip or stick or anything is not. My horses have always been well mannered on the ground with and it is not my problem if people go into paddocks with treats and my horse walks all over them. If they cannot remove their horse from a group paddock then they should not be keeping their horse in one. If all the horses are owned by a school or something then I guess its at the owners discretion how you treat them.

If you just started maybe ask someone there to show you.
    10-01-2009, 10:04 PM
It's a really difficult situation when the horses do not belong to you. I'm not in a postion to be training them to have better manners and like Saskia said, I'm not sure if people would be ok with me using a whip on their horses. I was thinking of trying to just have the horse I'm leading walk through the gate by themselves but if they decide they want to try and take off I'm not in a good position to try to stop them. I'm hesitant to talk to talk to someone there about this problem because I had 2 days of training so I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. I don't like having to ask for help.

I don't want to seem like I'm not listening to the help that's being offered but if anyone else has any ideas I'd like to hear them. I like to have a lot of options to try so that if one doesn't work of got something else to move on to.
    10-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Using a crop or whip would be last resort obviously, I meant that even just having it and using it an extension of yourself helps loads. But if it came down to it and a horse was getting seriously dangerous (literally going to run me over, kick me, bite, etc) I wouldn't hesitate to use a crop or smack them with a lead rope. I'd never hit a horse with a lunge whip. But a crop makes more noise than the pain it causes (if any) and could save yourself from serious injury. Just saying. No one's saying to go in there smacking all the horses you can. Just that you can't be afraid to give a smack where deserved. In the right place, at the right time.
    10-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Go in twirling the lead rope and growling "Back UP!" while advancing threatningly. A mean voice and agressive posture will really have an effect. If they still don't respond, carry out the threat and whoop some horsie tush! Some might disagree, but I have used the chain end of a lead rope when some horses started getting rowdy and almost knocked me down and would again.

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