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post #1 of 17 Old 07-22-2012, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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Devil foals...

The stallion that my mare is bred to, produced a colt this past monday. Cute little bay dun. I show with the foal owners and they were telling these unbelieveable stories today about this colt.

He is viscious! A complete brat they are saying.

The granddaughter (whos 17) imprinted the foal Monday. By Thursday, this foal is kicking at them, striking at them. Baring his "gums" at them and pinning his ears. The grandmother is actually scared of him.

I have yet to see him. But this is so interesting to me. Supposedly the dam is a real...witch. But while the foal is doing all this stuff, the mare isnt doing anything. She's not acting wigged out or being difficult.

I want to go see him myself, but im curious if anyone has ever had a foal like this before? How in the world do you handle such a situation with a newborn without scaring them?

Its slightly amusing to me...Then again, I hope these 2 ladies are up for the job to handle him, cause if they don't work with him and he's like this at less then 1 week old, I can't imagine what he'll be like at 1 year.
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post #2 of 17 Old 07-22-2012, 10:17 PM
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Yes one of my aunts foals is like that this year......but they are not afraid to smack the little turd monkey. After a few good smacks he quit trying to kick, rear, strike, ect....

Sounds like he has an attitude that needs to be addressed ASAP.

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Yup bubba needs a wake up call. Have these people delt with many foals?
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Out of all the foals I've ever been around, I've never heard of a naughty newborn like this. Where do they learn such behavior so young? All the foals I've been around are sweet and friendly, or shy and curious. Never...bad. Lol.
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Yup bubba needs a wake up call. Have these people delt with many foals?
No they have not. The grandmother, like I said, is afraid of the little booger. The granddaughter is the one that wanted the foal and bred her mare. She is a good young horsewoman. Theyve had 1 other foal that I know of from this mare years ago, but are not breeders by any means.

A little bit of tough love is in order for this little guy huh?
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A little bit of tough love is in order for this little guy huh?
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More than a little, and quickly. I'd smack the snot out of him. Every day it continues, the worse it's going to get.
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Some foals are really quick to learn that threatening people makes them scared. I made a huge rod for my own back when I got nervous of reprimanding a 2 day old foal who double barrelled me. I was wary of her and she took advantage of that and was a cow to handle. In the end I just threw her out with the mares and foals, and the herd sorted out her attitude, fortunately she was a nice as anything when I brought her back in.

From then on, if a foal tries to kick or bite they get put right in no uncertain terms, a kick for a kick, or just making yourself as big as possible and going Momma Bear on them growling as loud as possible and going forward towards them.
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Good to know. Im going to pass this information onto them.
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All my horses, foals or not, get their Clinton Anderson groundwork from day 1, starting with desensitizing, and then the lunging, yielding, backing up, etc.

And don't panic, we don't lunge for HOURS until their leg fall off, We just do a circle at the walk or maybe the trot, just to get the idea and establish the "I can move your feet anywhere" aspect, and "I can move your forequarters and hindquarters anywhere I want." It's pretty amazing how fast they pick up on things.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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That could turn into an interesting case study into the type of dispositions passed on by sire and/or dam. Are you aware of some of the other foals from this stallion?

I'm not remembering the names right now, but I believe there were a couple of notoriously 'aggressive' stallions in the thoroughbred world whose get (some but not all) had like disposition. In fact, one was an Australian horse as I recall so perhaps some of the Australian members can provide some input on this.

How is the foal with his mother? My thought is that if he's behaving relatively normal with her, then imprinting did not happen for whatever reason. But whether it is that or something else, all should proceed with caution and conviction to get the little guy in line before its too late.
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