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post #1 of 35 Old 08-29-2012, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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Direct me to those whocan help me.

I have a friend who is not too good health wise and is “cleaning up loose ends” as she says. Her dream was to start a school to teach the American Indians about horses so they could stand up on their own using the horses once again. She wrote a book call “Promises Fulfilled” and gave be a few copies. My friend gave up on the dream. She is coming to visit me and we are going to have one last ride together. Actually she does not know I am writing this to you. As I mentioned she is trying to clean up loose ends and has 19 horses to find homes for. If there was a way to get these horses to the American Indians I sure would love the help. I have a place in my home to help them learn about horses and I would teach them free. If you have any ideas and can point me to others who could help let me know. I tell you the truth I am not a horse dealer just trying to help a very good friend.

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post #2 of 35 Old 08-29-2012, 03:04 PM
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I'm a little confused...

What are you talking about when you say "The Native Americans"? I know two who would love horses, and I know a lot of people with native in them that adore horses as well. I also know a couple blue bloods that have nothing, and want nothing to do with horses. Its just ancestroy to them.

Do you want to return them to the land? Give them to a reservation? In my opinion and experience, Native Americans are just normal people. There are accountants, businessmen, equestrians, waitresses, etc. They haven't "lost" or "forgotten" their horse sense. Some natives were avid horsemen, others were avid butchers, seemstresses, farmers, whatever have you.

Native American equestrians don't know any less than what whites do, and they learn everything the way everyone else does. Through lessons, trial and error, and practice.

I'm sure you didn't mean it in an insulting way, but it is a bit insulting. Many of my native friends have stood up the way they need to without using horses. What is it that you planned on teaching native equestrians that they already didn't know? A white person attempting to teach a native about how to recreate and use their own heritage is a bit of an insult.

All in all, I guess I just don't understand the question. She could probably sell or donate the horses to an indian reservation. You can put them on craigslist to sell them, or dreamhorse.
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I agree with you 100% copperhead. Except the poster never referred to their own race (though, I too, would assume Caucasian).
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Very well said Copperhead.

To the OP, as you are trying to rehome such a large number of horses, your location would be very helpful to know - and how broke the horses are.
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I'm sure you didn't mean it in an insulting way, but it is a bit insulting. Many of my native friends have stood up the way they need to without using horses. What is it that you planned on teaching native equestrians that they already didn't know? A white person attempting to teach a native about how to recreate and use their own heritage is a bit of an insult.
This EXACTLY.

I completely agree with Copperhead.. Not all Native Americans even want anything to do with horses.. They aren't stuck in the wild wild west anymore, they are in the same exact time frame and world we are in.. That said, a majority of Native Americans will have older relatives that explain the way horses were involved in every day life for many Native Americans.. Horses aren't a strange animal to them and it's not likely that they need your friend to teach them about horses.. This is almost a far fetched idea and your friend almost making all Native Americans seem like they are on another level than yourself.. They are people and if they wanted to know more about horses they could find out just like the rest of us.. and this is coming from someone Native American relatives.

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Not sure why the OP made one post, then wandered off somewhere. I'd think if they wanted some sort of actual help rehoming the horses, they'd have at least stayed on the forum.

That post is just....strange. Native Americans aren't stuck in some time warp, nor do they need White Brother/Sister to help them tame and ride Sunka Wakan.

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post #7 of 35 Old 08-29-2012, 03:57 PM
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"stand up on their own using horses again?"
How are they not doing it now? 99% of my friends back home are NA. 90% of them rodeo, or show, or trail ride whatever.

They have tribe elders that teach them their heritage...they don't need outsiders "helping them learn their own heritage" again.....

Is the OP trying to rehome horses? It be nice to know a location so we could actually be of help.

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post #8 of 35 Old 08-29-2012, 05:33 PM
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What an odd post. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it all sounded a bit 'rainbows and butterflies' to me.
Is there some allusion about them riding off into the wild open plains to live in teepees again on these horses? It did sound a bit like that
Native American Indians with cash will buy horses if they want them, they are no different to anyone else and the ones on the breadline are no different to other americans either - they can't afford to keep a horse so why try to give them one?
There are lots of Native american sites with contact details she could use to ask if any reservations could help but there are so many free & cheap horses out there at present I can't see why they would want to take these particular ones
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Help me understand???????????

Did it ever cross your mind you would be helping a human who has something in with you.

1. We all live of this planet.
2. We have the sun shining on are face.
3. We all breathe air.
4. We all feel cold and heat.
5. We all have dreams and want better for our self’s and our family.
6. We all do not live on batteries all are given a life force free.

These are command to who live on this planet.
See with a different set of eyes look past the anger. Not all think the way you do.
Maybe you can help me learn and I can tell you about me and you will see.
Ask your oldest member with a gentle heart.
Did we all not come from the same place to start?
I would truly interested in the answer given
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Did it ever cross your mind you would be helping a human who has something in with you.

1. We all live of this planet.
2. We have the sun shining on are face.
3. We all breathe air.
4. We all feel cold and heat.
5. We all have dreams and want better for our self’s and our family.
6. We all do not live on batteries all are given a life force free.

These are command to who live on this planet.
See with a different set of eyes look past the anger. Not all think the way you do.
Maybe you can help me learn and I can tell you about me and you will see.
Ask your oldest member with a gentle heart.
Did we all not come from the same place to start?
I would truly interested in the answer given
Well that cleared everything up....
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