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        11-14-2012, 03:48 PM
      #4941
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Glynnis    
    I just googled "training snaffle" and this is what I got... although, I can no longer find the picture of the bit that was used on that horse, but I think it looked similar to this one? The website it was from is Bob Avila Training Snaffle Bit.

    It might be called a "snaffle" by name, buy by definition, it is not a snaffle.
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        11-14-2012, 03:57 PM
      #4942
    Started
    Agreed. I personally am not a fan of this type of bit - I prefer one or the other, but each to their own.
         
        11-14-2012, 04:13 PM
      #4943
    Foal
    Found this thought it might help out the confusion on the whole snaffle bit
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snaffle_bit
         
        11-14-2012, 10:54 PM
      #4944
    Foal
    Sometimes I feel like anything with a jointed mouth piece is referred to as a snaffle.

    I think because you have two options for rein connection, one allowing direct pressure, and the bottom for leverage - these bits get called snaffles.
         
        11-14-2012, 11:01 PM
      #4945
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kateyb1622    
    I think because you have two options for rein connection, one allowing direct pressure, and the bottom for leverage - these bits get called snaffles.
    wait so my pelham is actually a snaffle? [k so I do USE it like a snaffle 99% of the time, as I use double reins, but honestly!]
         
        11-14-2012, 11:08 PM
      #4946
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
    wait so my pelham is actually a snaffle? [k so I do USE it like a snaffle 99% of the time, as I use double reins, but honestly!]
    No, I am just trying to state that I think it is a common misconception and for marketing purposes bits are not labeled entirely correct. I see it all the time where a bit will say "snaffle mouthpiece" and it has shanks. Just my opinion. I use a pelham as well with two sets of reins and as well about 99% of the time I use it like a snaffle. I think it's a great bit when used properly. I have to admit I am careful to post pics of my horse in our dressage gear or bridle because there are a lot of people out there who consider it harsh and I would rather just skip on their comments.
         
        11-14-2012, 11:12 PM
      #4947
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GypsyRose    
    found this thought it might help out the confusion on the whole snaffle bit
    Snaffle bit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This might not be correct, but I've always thought of it this way when differentiating a snaffle from a curb: ...

    The thing that makes it a snaffle or a curb is not the mouthpiece or the cheekpiece. It's the mechanism. If there is leverage, it is 100% of the time a curb bit. If it is direct pressure, it is 100& of the time a snaffle.

    That's just me though. The bit that keeps getting posted and called a snaffle would actually be both (or neither) depending on where you clip the reins. If it's hooked to the bottom, it's a curb. When you hook the reins to the top, the action changes, and therefore the type of bit it is changes.

    I focus on the ACTION (mechanism) of the bit. Not the type of mouthpiece or cheekpiece...
         
        11-14-2012, 11:17 PM
      #4948
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kateyb1622    
    No, I am just trying to state that I think it is a common misconception and for marketing purposes bits are not labeled entirely correct. I see it all the time where a bit will say "snaffle mouthpiece" and it has shanks. Just my opinion. I use a pelham as well with two sets of reins and as well about 99% of the time I use it like a snaffle. I think it's a great bit when used properly. I have to admit I am careful to post pics of my horse in our dressage gear or bridle because there are a lot of people out there who consider it harsh and I would rather just skip on their comments.
    I was joking :P

    You never see a pelham marketed as a snaffle so I think the logic is kind of crazy :P if a pelham ain't a snaffle neither is anything Western with a shank. That simple.
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        11-14-2012, 11:22 PM
      #4949
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blue eyed pony    
    I was joking :P

    You never see a pelham marketed as a snaffle so I think the logic is kind of crazy :P if a pelham ain't a snaffle neither is anything Western with a shank. That simple.
    Saddles Tack Horse Supplies - ChickSaddlery.com Junior Cow Horse Smooth Snaffle Gag Bit

    Like this - This is labeled a snaffle bit, (maybe I should say snaffle is in the labeling) it really is a revised version of a pelham. Same concept. I see tom thumb bits labeled under "snaffle" often too.

    My wording really wasn't to the point. Lol
         
        11-14-2012, 11:26 PM
      #4950
    Foal
    One more good example but, again not a snaffle......

    Myler Comfort Snaffle with Copper Roller in Shanked Snaffles at Schneider Saddlery

    I just personally feel a lot of people are looking and labeling by the mouthpiece only.
         

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