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        07-23-2012, 11:34 PM
      #21
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
    That is the way to go!!

    I have had the same hay guys for years. Not the best hay but not bad and I am always happy when I get it. If it is a good hay year I get good hay if not so good I get not so good hay. If you are a good repeat customer they always have hay for me, and I am not afraid they will sell it to the highest bidder.
    Taffy, you raise some good points. After I posted today, our friends came out to check their garden that we let them plant on our property. They have 2 well trained horses on a rented pasture but they simply cannot find the hay they need to get through this winter. As a result, they are almost decided to put the horses for sale on CL or to send them to an auction. As I mentioned, we're on the edge of not having enough for the next 12 months if the pastures are dead next spring from the drought this year, so we don't have any to spare. We've been hounding them since June to get their hay early, since it looked to be a weird and unpredictable year, but they didn't. I can't imagine these horses going to auction, though....so I don't know what I would do if they couldn't find hay for them. I'm going to try to PM you if you can pass on the contact info for your hay guys I'd be grateful.
         
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        07-23-2012, 11:35 PM
      #22
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by LoveTheSaddlebreds    
    I guess I'm lucky - It's been raining here every other day it seems!
    yep, but don't let your guard down..I thought the same thing last year when Texas had an awful drought...but then the brokers were buying much of the hay up north & shipping it down to Texas then charging them horribly high prices because they were in such need & didn't have a choice. I think someone earlier said they were paying over $20/bale.
         
        07-23-2012, 11:36 PM
      #23
    Trained
    The economy is tough right now. Someone that may have been able to adequately provide for their horses last year may not be able to this year. That doesn't make it their fault. While you get the odd person that is actually just a complete 'tard, most of the horses being rehomed don't nessarily come from abusive homes.
    The thing that really bothers me is when someone see's an ad with a skinny horse and either has it flagged so it's deleted, or they email the owner telling them what a piece of sh*t they are.
    One, with that ad down, that horse now has even less of a chance of finding a home. Two, belittling does not help. At least they are rehoming, or trying too. Emailing 'hate' mail is only to going to make them stop, and then they'll just be sent right to the meat pen because they don't the emails about being a "horrible horse owner".
    If you can't help the horse, either try and find someone locally who can, or just leave it. Raging against people you don't know, who's situation you don't understand, is so completely unproductive on so many levels. Let's try humanity.

    Alberta, however, has been blessed. We have farmers here who (most of them, actually) have already done their first cut and have a good start on the second. Hay is not a concern for me this year.
    I always keep an eye out for oldies in my area (see so many of them down in the US that can't make it here) that may need a retirement home, but the prices here are still good and the rehoming market next to none.

    I'm hoping to get a hay shelter build within the summer, and I will probably gets a years worth - a little more then average as I'll have two stallions that will be on grass and hay in their pens.
    I don't see anything wrong with buying extra hay so long as it's not wasted.

    I do hope that the US gets some rain heading their way. It's already a bad situation for horses, and winter isn't even near yet.
         
        07-23-2012, 11:44 PM
      #24
    Trained
    I got my hay in early and I made sure to buy extra. Sure enough, got a call today, an acquaintance who only needs 30 or 40 bales for the winter is looking for hay. I have it and I'll sell it to them, but that will be my reserve. Had they said something at the time I bought it, I'd have done it for cost but now, I can't get anymore unless I pay a premium, so they will have to pay whatever it will cost me to replace what I sell them. I had told them this summer was going to bad according to the Almanac and they didn't want to believe me.

    I won't see their horses starve but I sure wish they had listened when I had access to a whole bunch of hay back in May.
         
        07-23-2012, 11:44 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Taffy Clayton    
    Lady trails, while it will make you feel more secure, Is it right to hoard the hay for next year, "just in case". While I have thought the same thing, I always am concerened with the what ifs, I have only enough for this year, because I know that every extra bale I have in my barn for next year takes it from those who really need it this year.
    Taffy, I get your point. Just to show that we're frugal and conservative, we have 17 bales, 13 of which are 2011 models which are left over from our mild winter and wonderful pastures last year and 4 of which are at least 4 year old hay from our own pastures that we haven't wanted to feed to the horses because of their age and quality. This year, the horses will have to eat it. It's not good enough to feed to the sheep. If horses turn up their noses at the old stuff, and/or if we have a hard winter, we are going to be really messed up.... Hubby and I are talking about not breeding our sheep, because they'll need good hay if they're going to stay healthy. If we don't get rain for a fall growth on our pastures and/or find a few spare bales, we won't be having a lamb crop *or* a steer crop.
         
        07-24-2012, 12:00 AM
      #26
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    I got my hay in early and I made sure to buy extra. Sure enough, got a call today, an acquaintance who only needs 30 or 40 bales for the winter is looking for hay. I have it and I'll sell it to them, but that will be my reserve. Had they said something at the time I bought it, I'd have done it for cost but now, I can't get anymore unless I pay a premium, so they will have to pay whatever it will cost me to replace what I sell them. I had told them this summer was going to bad according to the Almanac and they didn't want to believe me.

    I won't see their horses starve but I sure wish they had listened when I had access to a whole bunch of hay back in May.
    shoot I wish I had listened to my self when I said look at all that hay I need to stock up for next winter then I procrastinated..ugh!!
    I do need to start reading the almanac
         
        07-24-2012, 12:47 AM
      #27
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LoveTheSaddlebreds    
    I guess I'm lucky - It's been raining here every other day it seems!
    I'm with you! I live on the rainy side of Oregon. We haven't started summer yet. I never in my life have thought about drought effecting hay to the point that it seems to be hurting these people. My BO gets his hay from eastern Oregon. Its dryer there but I know they're still getting rain. It seems so weird to me that people and animals suffer from a lack of rain while we're all here in Oregon glaring at the sky. I'm sending it over as I type! I wish the best of luck to everyone!
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        07-24-2012, 08:20 AM
      #28
    Yearling
    We get our hay every year, years supply plus some rounds to fill in in the winter. Had my hay guy for years but we have had some weird years where hay was crap and scarce because of Mother Nature. What hay he does get on bad years, he will include me in with some other long term buyers but it is not enough to last the whole year. We picked up fifty here and fifty there from all over our area until we had enough for a full year. We end up spending a lot more than expected but that is exactly why we keep a hay fund on hand. We also have a grazing pasture which helps. When hay comes in I get all of the help I can in getting it off the field within a few days. A lot of work but when it is done it is done and I can breath better knowing our horses have enough hay for a year even with a bad winter. Breath at least for the next twelve months, he he.
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        07-24-2012, 11:03 AM
      #29
    Started
    Around here people are waking up and finding 10 or 12 new horses dumped in the pasture.. Yes it is sad I am Praying every day for rain not just for Hay but for all the crops
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        07-24-2012, 11:39 AM
      #30
    Yearling
    I would be so pissed if someone dropped horses off in my pasture. Others having dumped their responsibility on me angers me so.
         

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