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post #1 of 134 Old 01-30-2013, 03:57 AM Thread Starter
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At the End of My Rope!

Like the title says Im at the end of my rope. I don't know what to do anymore. I watched my horse Shaggy almost break his leg today. I've been on such a great since my lesson last week and then having a great ride on saturday. Then today everything crumbled. I got to barn and everything was going great. I had Shaggy groomed and tacked up. As Im finishing tacking the owner drives through the field in the gator and goes to the back paddock. He a nice guy so waves at me as he goes by. I didnt think much of it until I walked Shaggy over to the mounting block and I hear the chainsaw I didnt see in the back of the gator. Well Shaggy heard it too so as I'm fixing the girth he flips out, the reins go out of my hands and he takes off threw the field. I can't catch him because him cause every time the chainsaw sounds he takes off again. I watched him step on the reins and stumble down one of hills in the pasture. At this point he's ran 6 or 7 circles around me and the horses in the field. All horses running gets the **** dog chasing them and she's running after Blaze while Shaggy is running around the field with the reins dragging at he's feet only this time when he comes down the hill the reins go around his leg! My heart STOPPED when that! Thank god it fell when he stopped and he stepped on it. It caused he to stop long enough for me to grab him. I can not take this anymore! I had a break down once I got to work. I yelled at my mom and we got into a fight. I just don't know what to do anymore. I can't even enjoy my horses anymore. But im not selling them! I just don't know how to get my parents to understand my horses are not safe. That im not safe when I ride. The thing that pisses me off the most. The owner friggin saw me getting ready to ride WHY would he go down there and start that thing up! Why not stop and ask if it was going to bother my horse! I mean hell I know its there place that can do whatever the hell they want but how hard would it have been to wait 30 mins! Ugh I'm sorry I just needed to rant for a minute.

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post #2 of 134 Old 01-30-2013, 04:07 AM
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I think it's extremely unlikely that he would break his leg from the reins being wrapped around the leg. He would break the reins rather than his leg.

Think about how thick the leg bone is and then how thin reins are.

I personally like my horse to be around different things, like an unexpected chainsaw. I would have got on the horse and ridden him up closer to where the man was working and got the horse used to it.

To me that's a learning experience for the horse. They have to learn when they are afraid of something that they look to you rather than bolt away.
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post #3 of 134 Old 01-30-2013, 06:33 AM
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It's not up to other people to make sure your horses don't freak out over things like chainsaws, tractors, semi trucks blasting by, or firetrucks. That's on you to make sure they're properly trained and desensitized. The whole world isn't required to stop and ask you if it's okay for them to go on about their day just because you want to ride your horse.

If the horses aren't safe and you don't enjoy them, I can't see why you'd bother to keep them. Sounds to me that you and your horses could benefit greatly from professional training, but I know that's not likely to happen.

And no, your horse was in no danger of breaking his leg. Reins are made of thin leather and there's no way they could break a horse's leg. They'll snap first.

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We all have good and bad days. Take this as a learning curve, and a hint that you need to start desensitizing your horses
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It's not up to other people to make sure your horses don't freak out over things like chainsaws, tractors, semi trucks blasting by, or firetrucks. That's on you to make sure they're properly trained and desensitized. The whole world isn't required to stop and ask you if it's okay for them to go on about their day just because you want to ride your horse.

If the horses aren't safe and you don't enjoy them, I can't see why you'd bother to keep them. Sounds to me that you and your horses could benefit greatly from professional training, but I know that's not likely to happen.

And no, your horse was in no danger of breaking his leg. Reins are made of thin leather and there's no way they could break a horse's leg. They'll snap first.
I didnt say the whole word had to stop for me to ride but it would have been respectful for him to ask if I thought the chainsaw would bother Shaggy. And just so you know I just started working with a new trainer but she's an hour away so I can't exactly take Shaggy to her when I don't have a trailer or anything to pull it.

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And just so everyone knows I think theres a good chance he could have broken his leg when he's galloping up and down extremely muddy hills with the reins dangling around his front feet. Honeslty I don't know if the reins would have broken because there Wintec rubber reins not thin leather.

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We all have good and bad days. Take this as a learning curve, and a hint that you need to start desensitizing your horses
He is or I guess was desensitized but now with sounds he's getting worse.

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I think it's extremely unlikely that he would break his leg from the reins being wrapped around the leg. He would break the reins rather than his leg.

Think about how thick the leg bone is and then how thin reins are.

I personally like my horse to be around different things, like an unexpected chainsaw. I would have got on the horse and ridden him up closer to where the man was working and got the horse used to it.

To me that's a learning experience for the horse. They have to learn when they are afraid of something that they look to you rather than bolt away.
Maybe if this was a year ago yeah I would got him rode him closer to where the man was working but its not and I have confidence issues that im working through with the new trainer.
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I just don't know what to do anymore. I can't even enjoy my horses anymore. But im not selling them! I just don't know how to get my parents to understand my horses are not safe. That im not safe when I ride. The thing that pisses me off the most. The owner friggin saw me getting ready to ride WHY would he go down there and start that thing up! Why not stop and ask if it was going to bother my horse! I mean hell I know its there place that can do whatever the hell they want but how hard would it have been to wait 30 mins! Ugh I'm sorry I just needed to rant for a minute.
I'm not understanding. If you're not safe when riding your horses, why are you continuing to ride them? Why would you ride in an open space like that if they're that dangerous?

Why would you keep a horse that's dangerous to ride?

If they're dangerous and you're working with a trainer, why ride without the trainer?


It is your responsibility to be mindful of your surroundings and teach your horse to be desensitized. He clearly is not. You cannot expect other people to stop and get your permission to carry on with what they're doing. It doesn't work like that. If you're on a trail are you going to expect the deer to ask you before crashing through the brush? Or a 4 wheeler to know you're on the other side of a hill? No.

You need a better working relationship wih your horse and if really is dangerous, then you should not be riding him until you can handle what he does. Go back to basics and do LOTS of groundwork. Get the Clinton Anderson videos and get that horses respect and trust. Get a trainer closer to you as we'll and seriously reconsider the horses. You might need a calmer, more trained horse that would be more suited to you.
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I'm not understanding. If you're not safe when riding your horses, why are you continuing to ride them? Why would you ride in an open space like that if they're that dangerous?

Why would you keep a horse that's dangerous to ride?

If they're dangerous and you're working with a trainer, why ride without the trainer?


It is your responsibility to be mindful of your surroundings and teach your horse to be desensitized. He clearly is not. You cannot expect other people to stop and get your permission to carry on with what they're doing. It doesn't work like that. If you're on a trail are you going to expect the deer to ask you before crashing through the brush? Or a 4 wheeler to know you're on the other side of a hill? No.

You need a better working relationship wih your horse and if really is dangerous, then you should not be riding him until you can handle what he does. Go back to basics and do LOTS of groundwork. Get the Clinton Anderson videos and get that horses respect and trust. Get a trainer closer to you as we'll and seriously reconsider the horses. You might need a calmer, more trained horse that would be more suited to you.
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My horse is not dangrous to ride! The environment he's in is! I don't say move cause I can't ok. The trainer is an hour away that's why. I've ridden on my own for 3 yrs out there. Things changed with the horses when they started taking the ring down and never finished it. Its like the horses say there was nothing there to stop them so the first time he ever broke away from me he learned he go all the way through the field there was nothing there anymore to stop them and you know what my confidence went with it!
My horse and I have a great working relationship when he's not having a panic attack over a chainsaw.
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