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post #1 of 10 Old 09-22-2012, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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Hi there,
As of lately, I have been thinking more and more about the chances of my horse getting stolen!
I have him as secure as is possible. He's not branded, but he is registered with AQHA (which probably won't help a hill of beans if he's stolen). However, apart from the obvious ways to keep our horses secure (locked gates etc) have you got them ID'd, tattooed or branded to make ID easier? I know breeders brand their horses, but do just regular joes do it for ID purposes?

Any ideas? Thoughts?
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post #2 of 10 Old 09-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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Perhaps a microchip? Although it isn't visible, it is a way to positively identify a horse and is relatively cheap, easy and painless.

Punkstank posted a thread about it earlier this week..
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post #3 of 10 Old 09-22-2012, 11:12 PM Thread Starter
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Perhaps a microchip? Although it isn't visible, it is a way to positively identify a horse and is relatively cheap, easy and painless.

Punkstank posted a thread about it earlier this week..
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Yes I was thinking of doing the chip thing. Yeah, I do have an issue about it not being visible. Perhaps a freeze brand and a chip. Can a person get their own personal freeze brand on a horse?
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Yes I was thinking of doing the chip thing. Yeah, I do have an issue about it not being visible. Perhaps a freeze brand and a chip. Can a person get their own personal freeze brand on a horse?
You should check into Kryo Kinetics UCS who uses the copyrighted and patented Alpha Angle System of marking a horse. Each horse is marked with a unique marking that shows their breed (or state of residence for grade horses), year of birth and either their registration number or state log book number.

It's unique, unalterable and visible and unlike a brand, you don't have to keep up with the registry with your state. State brand offices are few in the US (except in Texas O.o) and someone could have your same brand registered in another state easily.
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Awesome thanks! I will look into that! Very helpful!
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Yes, you can get your own personal brand. A microchip is a really great idea, as well.

Also, I've seen little bits of this "eyeD" system, that may be worth it to look into. :)

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Microchipping is a waste of money and just selling people on pipe dreams. While they may have some uses for cats and dogs, they are pretty useless for horses.
Think about it, the thief isnt going to scan your horse, buyers arnt going to scan a horse, vets arnt going to scan a horse. NOONE involved with the horse will ever scan it. Have you ever scanned a horse you bought ?
If your horse is lost or gets loose your going to be on the phone to LEO, posting fliers, etc, pretty much everyone in the county will know who to come get if they find a loose horse. And those that don't know, guess what ? They don't have a scanner.
A freeze brand is much more useful. You can identify it from a distance. A laymen non horse person can look for a brand if you put up fliers at auction places. A brand and a photo can prove ownership and give LEO probable cause to enter someones property to recover stolen goods. Seeing a brown horse in a field with no positive markings a laymen can see isnt going to get a cop to enter property to scan it.
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post #8 of 10 Old 09-24-2012, 09:24 AM
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My boys are microchipped. I can see what Joe4d is saying, but chipping has caught on here and it is now law that every horse in transit has a passport with them, and the chip number is in their passport.

It cost me about €30 each to chip. Every TB in the UK & Ireland is chipped, we don't lip tattoo. I find it worthwhile, and many yards require the passport and chip be checked before the horse is allowed off the horsebox.

Maybe it will catch on over there, I don't know, but it seems to be working well enough here and they have now moved into chipping saddles.

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Maple, the US has a lot of land mass, and its citizens are allowed to move freely throughout the whole country without having to show identification at every state border. Our mindset is also quite different than that of other countries, because of the way we view personal freedoms.

For those reasons, plus the logistical nightmare it would entail in a country this large and diverse, I don't think the equine passport idea will ever find favor.

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My horse is both microchipped and freeze branded. Not my choice, though; the registry required the microchip when he was registered as a baby, and the breeder did the freeze brand.

Auctions are supposed to scan for microchips (whether they do or not is up for debate). Sold to a private buyer, the microchip is unlikely to be scanned.

A brand is visible, but means nothing if whoever buys the horse doesn't look it up. I wouldn't even know where to start to research a horse's brand. It also doesn't necessarily positively identify a horse- my horse has at least one half brother with the same brand and coloring.
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