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        01-19-2014, 05:22 PM
      #21
    Trained
    Everyone wants to be hard on the OP for stating her disgust at finding horse meat in the local store. I just wonder how everybody would feel if it were dog meat or cat meat. Just so you cook it well, it should be perfectly nutritious. Yum, yum.
         
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        01-19-2014, 07:00 PM
      #22
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Celeste    
    Everyone wants to be hard on the OP for stating her disgust at finding horse meat in the local store. I just wonder how everybody would feel if it were dog meat or cat meat. Just so you cook it well, it should be perfectly nutritious. Yum, yum.
    But people do eat that. And it wouldn't surprise me in certain asian stores, if they did sell that. Idk if it's legal. But it wouldn't surprise me. And please don't take that as racist either, because it's true. A lot will eat anything, for instance, in vietnam my friends mom her family was poor. They ate cats and dogs, anything. Hell she asked why we don't eat the Pidgeons here.

    Just a fact of life.
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        01-19-2014, 07:14 PM
      #23
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    Horsemeat from Canadian slaughterhouses goes into the EU so I imagine its being supplied direct to Canadian butcher shops from the same source
    Canada has the same passport system as the EU which has been designed to track any drugs that are administered for slaughter for human consumption purposes
    Horses don't have to be specifically bred for meat to end up on the table
    Of course after the scandals in Europe we all know that the system isn't by any means foolproof but in the light of those recent events, the drop in sales of horse meat and general distrust in the slaughter houses they have had to tighten up their acts so the risks of contaminated meat getting through is much less likely than it used to.
    I didn't think our standards were as tough as the EU's, they usually aren't. I still wouldn't eat our the horse meat though, because I do care about humane slaughter.
         
        01-19-2014, 07:21 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    If you are really that concerned, I would write a letter to the owner of the store. Or, simply stop shopping there.

    Really, I agree with what has been said thus far. Just because it isn't something you condone or would eat yourself, doesn't mean that it shouldn't be an option for others. I wouldn't eat it, but I wouldn't look down on those that do.
         
        01-19-2014, 07:31 PM
      #25
    Showing
    As far as cat or dog meat...if there was a market for it, then I'd be happier with that meat actually going somewhere other than into an incinerator.

    I'm all for people eating whatever the heck they want as far as animals are concerned. It may gross me out, but as far as I'm concerned, it's their choice. After all, it's not like they're forcing me to eat it. Then I might raise a ruckus LOL.
         
        01-19-2014, 08:08 PM
      #26
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    As far as cat or dog meat...if there was a market for it, then I'd be happier with that meat actually going somewhere other than into an incinerator.

    I'm all for people eating whatever the heck they want as far as animals are concerned. It may gross me out, but as far as I'm concerned, it's their choice. After all, it's not like they're forcing me to eat it. Then I might raise a ruckus LOL.

    My friends are mostly asian. One of them got mad because I wouldn't try chicken feet.

    But agreed. As long as nobody forces me to eat it, then it's fine.
         
        01-19-2014, 08:26 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by thetempest89    
    I don't see any problems with it. I love horses, but just because I love them doesn't mean I'm going to stop them being in stores. Unless you're a 100% vegetarian it's unfair to say no to one of kind meat vs cows. Is it more okay for cows to be slaughtered then horses? Nope.
    This is a really good point. I use to fairly mindless eat meat, not really caring where it came from. Then I moved to my current home. The cattle processing plant is the next road over. Every day I see hundreds of cows taking a one way trip. It really got to me, and I have cut back the amount of beef that I eat. Do you think they are any less scared than the horses because they were raised specifically for slaughter? Cows are fairly intelligent. They know what is going on, but somewhere along the way horses became a "higher life form" than a cow.

    The same goes for pigs. Heck, pigs can be trained like dogs! There are studies about how smart they are, yet we still eat them.
         
        01-19-2014, 08:41 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Celeste    
    Everyone wants to be hard on the OP for stating her disgust at finding horse meat in the local store. I just wonder how everybody would feel if it were dog meat or cat meat. Just so you cook it well, it should be perfectly nutritious. Yum, yum.
    I was just coming on here to state this. Thank you Celeste!

    To me, my horses are every bit as much a part of the family as a dog or a cat. As a matter of fact, we don't even have a dog or a cat at the moment. Horses are companion animals to me. After all, it's not like I am using them to work a job or make money. They are a money pit. But I love them dearly and they are worth it to me. If I didn't have a special companion-animal relationship with my horses, I might as well ride a bicycle! Lord knows it would be a lot cheaper and less heart-ache.

    So I think to eat horses is akin to eating cats and dogs. And there are people who would do that. And there are people who live in places where they HAVE to do that to survive. But in the United States (and I assume Canada) we tend not to eat our companion animals. We are a rich country. We don't have to eat dogs, cats, horses or even pigeons.
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        01-19-2014, 09:02 PM
      #29
    Super Moderator
    For whomever might be interested, I thought I would put a link to just part of a scientific study on drugs clearing from horses. Right now, drug companies and Universities are conducting scientific studies on more than 100 drugs labeled for horses but not labeled for withdrawal times for slaughter.

    This lack of test studies is the ONLY reason they have been labeled "not for use in animals used for human consumption". Bute is one of the first drugs they have been testing. They are finding that it clears faster from horses than any other animal (except donkeys). Below is a link to the ongoing scientific study.

    Phenylbutazone in horses and man: Properties relevant to safety of humans consuming horse meat containing phenylbutazone and its metabolites - Lees - 2013 - Equine Veterinary Education - Wiley Online Library

    I think it is quite enlightening in regards to all of the lies and non-scientific propaganda put forth by the anti-slaughter zealots.

    As far as horse-meat being available in Canada: I have run into several people over the last several years that have said it was being served in very high class restaurants in Montreal. bon appétit
         
        01-19-2014, 09:09 PM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Clava    
    As long as the meat is suitable for consumption and not contaminated by drugs
    A very real and worrisome issue. Unless the horse is specifically raised for meat I'm sure it's had LOTS of medication. Pretty much everything you give your horse says "not for animals for consumption" even if it's something that has a withdrawal date (which a lot don't) you don't know that it has reached that point.

    If you have an issue write a letter and send a petition to the owner. I do think it's something you may just need to accept though. Shrug. If it's more and more available it's just a matter of time before it's mainstream.

    Cherie beat me to it. Interesting link, I'll be sure to check it out!
         

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