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post #1 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Ever get that horse that you just can't click with...?

Well, there's a horse at work, called Ash. He has a buck in him, usually when he is excited but sometimes he does it just because! Not often, rarely, but he never offers any warning, he just suddenly takes off broncing and bucking at the same time!

In December just gone I was riding him in a jump lesson. We were doing a course, and on our final jump, on landing he decided to gallop off at full speed and buck, which of course, plopped me on the floor. He caught me with his hoof as he cantered off, throwing me into the fence and fracturing my leg That's healed fine now.

Today I rode him for the first time since our previous misunderstandings. I have been riding others since then of course. It wasn't a lesson, I was just doing my own thing with him. He was being a diamond, really nice. We pulled off a nice walk to canter transition, cantered the long side of the arena. I said "good boy Ash" as I asked for trot, and just as I finished my sentence he decided to gallop off, buck and again plop me off!! I tried to get up but I couldn't! My boyfriend somehow managed to get me in the car and drive me to the hospital. I got there and the paramedics had to lift me out the car and into a trolley. I had some X-rays as they thought I had fractured my pelvis, spine or something. Luckily I didn't! Instead I have some severe muscular bruising. I can't physically move without A a wheelchair or B my boyfriend and a walking stick! Doctors say it should get better in a couple of weeks.

You know, sometimes, there's a horse you can't ever find a connection with
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Hmmm he sounds like a bit of a dink. Does he do that with everyone? But yes I've had horses that didn't like me one bit. Example, my wife had a big WP paint, I rode him once the day we got him for all of 2min. After that she handled him and even the kids rode him round. She was outta town and I caught him to feed, tying him up he flattened me into the hitchin rail with his big ole head! No reason at all, just didn't like me. Was an angel to my wife.
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I had a little palomino mare that I had bought as a project horse. I taught her all the basics, but she liked my sister riding her better. I spent an hour once working on her yielding her hind quarters under saddle. She never did but about one step for me... an hour later and my sister is riding her and I mentioned my problems that I had, had earlier. Ellie lifts the rein, tips her wrist and that little mare did the most beautiful hind-quarter yield ever! I just had to look away. I could train the basics and we got along fine for that, but I couldn't work on refining anything, she wouldn't allow it. I don't think it was my training techniques either, because I was training my QH/Arabian gelding at the same time, using the same techniques, and he was responding well.
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post #4 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 08:26 PM
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I would say that you and your horse are definitely not "clicking". You should not have to call an ambulance every time you ride. I would consider trading horses.
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Yeah, I've definitely had horses I didn't click with. However, not to this extent.

Honestly, he sounds a bit dangerous to me. Is anyone working with him consistently?
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I wouldn't ride the horse again.

I don't really think it's about the bond, I think it's more about the skill level of each of you. I'd bet money that the horse is doing something before the buck and the bolt, and maybe a more experienced rider would recognize those things and prevent them, or ride it out.
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Hmmm he sounds like a bit of a dink. Does he do that with everyone? But yes I've had horses that didn't like me one bit. Example, my wife had a big WP paint, I rode him once the day we got him for all of 2min. After that she handled him and even the kids rode him round. She was outta town and I caught him to feed, tying him up he flattened me into the hitchin rail with his big ole head! No reason at all, just didn't like me. Was an angel to my wife.
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Yeah he does it with everyone. One day he will be an absolute angel, on the ground and under saddle. The next he will be an absolute pig on the ground and an arse under saddle!

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I would say that you and your horse are definitely not "clicking". You should not have to call an ambulance every time you ride. I would consider trading horses.
Well luckily he's not actually mine. He is just one of the 22 I work to care and ride.

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Yeah, I've definitely had horses I didn't click with. However, not to this extent.

Honestly, he sounds a bit dangerous to me. Is anyone working with him consistently?
He is worked 5 times a week, by me and the other girls I work with.

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I wouldn't ride the horse again.

I don't really think it's about the bond, I think it's more about the skill level of each of you. I'd bet money that the horse is doing something before the buck and the bolt, and maybe a more experienced rider would recognize those things and prevent them, or ride it out.
I have sat through it and made him work through it many times, just in these cases I plopped off the side! My instructor has ridden him many times and she just has the same problem. He is so unpredictable, shows no warning at all.

We are suspicious about him having something wrong mentally. A year ago he was kicked in the head by a horse and half of his face was literally hanging off. I'll try and find a picture, you can't imagine without seein a picture. His head had to be stapled back together and somehow he recovered. Sine then he's never been right, he's been so unpredictable.

He used t carriage drive too but now he throws bucks whilst doing that, and obviously that's dangerous, so he can't be used for that anymore. I myself don't think there is anything mentally wrong, I think he's just being an ars. But who knows?
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Horses are never "just arses". Either there is/has been something wrong with the training methods, now or in his past, either there is something wrong with the horses' health - and neurological damage can really cause unpredictable behavior.

I wouldn't ride that horse.

I've ridden several I could work with, but didn't click with because of their and mine type of behavior and my lack of experience - for example, a dominant mare who tried taking off with me every time I rode her as a lesson horse. But we managed to work through our difficulties, although I was never too excited about the prospect of riding her.

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post #9 of 19 Old 01-29-2013, 08:29 AM
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If a horse suddenly began acting like that after a severe facial injury, I would suspect trigeminal neuralgia. The trigeminal nerve is a major facial nerve, and if it is damaged it causes a stabbing or electric-shock-like pain in parts of the face. People who have the disorder will have a breeze blow across their face which triggers the nerve, and will suddenly scream out in pain. Many environmental factors can trigger the pain, so often it is seen when riding a horse even if the horse seems normal otherwise. After all, if a horse suddenly goes running and bucking across the pasture we think that is normal. Horses with this disorder have been known to be fine when walking and trotting but will suddenly freak out when going faster. They believe this is because the wind on the face at a higher speed triggers the pain.
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If a horse suddenly began acting like that after a severe facial injury, I would suspect trigeminal neuralgia. The trigeminal nerve is a major facial nerve, and if it is damaged it causes a stabbing or electric-shock-like pain in parts of the face. People who have the disorder will have a breeze blow across their face which triggers the nerve, and will suddenly scream out in pain. Many environmental factors can trigger the pain, so often it is seen when riding a horse even if the horse seems normal otherwise. After all, if a horse suddenly goes running and bucking across the pasture we think that is normal. Horses with this disorder have been known to be fine when walking and trotting but will suddenly freak out when going faster. They believe this is because the wind on the face at a higher speed triggers the pain.
That's really interesting. His turns do seem completely out of the blue. I'll bring it up with boss and vet!
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