If he's had the horse for a few years and is in that condition, I don't think I would completely trust his word. I certainly wouldn't trade a well conditioned horse for him AND give him money - but that's just me.
It's the little things I hear you say. Things like: he wants to run, he's fast but can be handled, he loves to run in the pasture, he (the seller) wants a slower horse for his mother... things like that. When the horse is in condition, he may just be a handful. In any case I would certainly talk to his vet and I would want his teeth checked because I would bet the ranch it's not been done while he owned him.
Um....Not to throw a monkey wrench into your plans here...but...*tosses wrench* :P
I'm assumeing here so feel free to tell me to buzz off. I'm guessing that you are wanting to get rid of your mare because you still have your stud. What about getting the vet to give Chava a shot to keep her from comming into season??? Or getting the stud gelded?!?! I have never had a mare so I know very little about it.
I don't like the trade...He's been skinny for a very long time. I wonder that when you put groceries back into him he will be way less trained than he seems to be now.
And if you trade...chances are that Chava will end up just like him!!!!
I just about traded Twister for an 18yo mare....The mare was thin and Twister would have been going down that same road.
In the end its up to you...I just thought I'd give you food for thought!
Very good advice actually Dumas! The stud is no longer mine
Though, I gave him to my grandpa who apparently wants to leave
Him a stud (idiotic if you ask me), and I also don't want Chava
Going down that same road...I guess I should keep looking.
Yeah that didn't make sense to me either? That he had just rescued him form some one, but now he's had had him for years.......RED FLAG!!!....that's a really poorly kept horse...tx is right a t is usually run untill it's brakes down to having it x rayed does make sense...and do not take for word what any owner has to say while selling a horse......VET CHECK..yes I know it might be exspensive just have it checked....but would rather spend the small change now then having to shell out the big bucks on some thing the horse had prior to buying it..
The only thing that I would point out is that when he does gain weight and muscle he could speed up. My gelding gained much needed weight and muscle when we first got him and my trainer almost made us sell him. He went from child safe to completely psycho is a month (though he calmed down after a few months)
He could be keeping the horse malnourished to keep the horse sane, I've seen it done before. People aren't always honest.
Ive had a couple of off the track tbs and havent had any probs. One had been off for 8 months and the other 3 weeks. I had less troubles with the one who had just come off the track than the other :roll: but the only probs I did have was getting the relaxation when riding to the left and bending and working both ways. All the basics but with this horse I am assuming he's been off the track long enough that he's past all that carry on :)
I personally wouldnt look at him for anything other than trails. Eventing I think would be a bit of a stretch for him but it sounds and looks like he would be a lovely trail horse. The weight issue really isnt that bad as you said and it wont take long with some proper feeding for him to fatten up.
While vet checks are really important if you are spending big dollars on a horse I don't see them as that important if you are looking at a trail/pleasure horse that you are paying very little for. To be honest I have never had a pre-purchase vet check. I am not suggesting for a second that this is "right" but taking your time and looking over every aspect of the horse is possible even if you arent a vet. If bloodwork and things like that are required then obviously you will need a vet but general soundness of health can be done by anyone horse person who knows what they are looking for.
So if he is for trail or pleasure I would look at him but if he wants an eventing horse then I would steer clear. I mean he might be ok for some beginner stuff but I can't see much past that.