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post #11 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 01:43 AM
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I'm sorry you're facing this, it's never easy. Sunday night I went up to feed and my old guy wouldn't eat and was very lethargic. First time in his life with me (26 1/2 years) that he's ignored food. I was PETRIFIED. He's fine now but I'm still worried it's the beginning of the end.
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post #12 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 01:59 AM
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I am so sorry. I will be sending good vibes your way. Hope everything turns out for you.
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post #13 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 02:31 AM
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So sorry that you are going through this. Kudos to you for taking such great care of your horse. I know way too many people who would have sold their horse within the first signs of lameness. You're doing the best thing for him, and that's probably the best thing you can do. Hope everything goes well. If it does, then that's great! If it doesn't, you'll be doing the best thing for him. Either way, hes lucky to have a good owner like you.
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post #14 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 03:56 AM
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You could try Pentosan injections- they are about $200 for a years worth or so... Similar to adequan without the high cost. Get a script sent to wedgewood pharmacy.

Worth trying!

Often older horses have arthritis everywhere, so you might as well try something systematic. I never did have luck with glucosamine.

There is an alternative to bute- equioxx (firocoxib). It does not cause ulcers like bute does. Previcox is the dog version and is cheaper. My old mare has arthritis and DSLD in her hind legs. Eventually I will switch her to Previcox, but for now she does well on bute as needed.

"Legally, vets are not supposed to prescribe Previcox for horses, as there is an equine approved form on the market. Unfortunately, Equioxx, the equine alternative, is about 5x as expensive and is a paste, and tends to have much more wastage. A monthly supply of Equioxx is $294, while a monthly supply of Previcox is $55.

Please also note that Previcox is an anomaly in that the dosage for horses is MUCH smaller than that for dogs (my 950 lb horse gets a 57mg dose daily, which I believe is the dosage for a small dog. You should also be warned that if you use Previcox in a horse, you are considered to be using it "off-label," so should your horse react to it, you will have no recourse with the manufacturer. "
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post #15 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 10:49 PM
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Ah, I see. Yeah, that's the bad thing about Waller- they have amazing vets (LOVE Dr. Wimberly) but won't do much off-location.

Either way, as everyone else has said, you're doing an amazing job with him and giving him the best shot possible at a nice retirement...but if that can not be done for him, the fact that you are able to recognize that he will be miserable only half-sound in retirement shows just how wonderful of an owner you are.

Hugs to both you and your pretty boy, and good luck tomorrow with the xrays.

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post #16 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 10:53 PM
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You could try Pentosan injections- they are about $200 for a years worth or so... Similar to adequan without the high cost. Get a script sent to wedgewood pharmacy.

Worth trying!

Often older horses have arthritis everywhere, so you might as well try something systematic. I never did have luck with glucosamine.

There is an alternative to bute- equioxx (firocoxib). It does not cause ulcers like bute does. Previcox is the dog version and is cheaper. My old mare has arthritis and DSLD in her hind legs. Eventually I will switch her to Previcox, but for now she does well on bute as needed.

"Legally, vets are not supposed to prescribe Previcox for horses, as there is an equine approved form on the market. Unfortunately, Equioxx, the equine alternative, is about 5x as expensive and is a paste, and tends to have much more wastage. A monthly supply of Equioxx is $294, while a monthly supply of Previcox is $55.

Please also note that Previcox is an anomaly in that the dosage for horses is MUCH smaller than that for dogs (my 950 lb horse gets a 57mg dose daily, which I believe is the dosage for a small dog. You should also be warned that if you use Previcox in a horse, you are considered to be using it "off-label," so should your horse react to it, you will have no recourse with the manufacturer. "
4Horses, how many injections do you get when ordering the Pentosan. I go through 1 injection every 3 weeks...$19/6mL shot. Just curious is buying from Wedgewood would be worth getting bulk supply...
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post #17 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 11:02 PM Thread Starter
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Eeek vet comes tomorrow! He was lame today :(. He was on previcox for a little while, he did really well on it the first few days then came up really lame, so that route didn't work. And as far as IM stuff, both his regular vet and the vet seeing him tomorrow think it won't do any good. They generally use it as more of a preventative and cases not as bad as his. I have yet to convince them it would be worth while, but maybe I can depending on what happens tomorrow.

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post #18 of 72 Old 01-01-2014, 11:13 PM
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I thought I heard somewhere that horses with ringbone do better without shoes, but I can't remember for sure. I do not think you should give up on him, even if it is ringbone. There are many options out there. If the only option your vet gives is euthanization, I would seek a second opinion. We had a particularly pessimistic equine vet around this area a year or so ago. Her advice on almost every "semi-risky" injury was to put the horse down. No surprise, but she just went out of business!

Many hopeful wishes for your boy and you.
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I thought I heard somewhere that horses with ringbone do better without shoes, but I can't remember for sure. I do not think you should give up on him, even if it is ringbone. There are many options out there. If the only option your vet gives is euthanization, I would seek a second opinion. We had a particularly pessimistic equine vet around this area a year or so ago. Her advice on almost every "semi-risky" injury was to put the horse down. No surprise, but she just went out of business!

Many hopeful wishes for your boy and you.
He can't go without shoes, his feet fall apart :/. And he will abscess non stop no matter how dry it is and with Durasoling his feet everyday. Although from what I've read and talked to the vet with ringbone you actually want shoes and heel/frog support, so exactly what's he's in. Which would explain why he got better when we put pads on him. Which we put them on since I couldn't get him to stop abscessing even though we gave it a few months. I don't want to give up on him, but I don't want to see him limp around the pasture either.

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post #20 of 72 Old 01-02-2014, 02:34 AM
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Pentosan comes in a 100ml bottle so about 16 injections if you use 6cc per injection.

To the OP: Is he still having problems with abscesses? It sounds to me like you have a hoof problem if he is abscessing all the time. I would definitely want to get X rays of those front feet. If his hooves are that bad, it could be a hoof problem rather than ringbone.

It could also be navicular. My navicular horse had problems with frequent abscesses for years. Moved to a drier environment and got a better farrier and she has not had an abscess since. Still has some navicular issues but is stable.
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