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        02-25-2011, 04:53 PM
      #1
    Yearling
    Feel like instructor is being ripped off...

    I take lessons at one of the most expensive barns in my area, about $50 for a 30 minute private lesson and I found out today that my instructor only gets $10 out of that and the barn owner gets the rest! Since the instructor is there from start to finish with me, it amounts to a little over 1 1/2 hours...

    The instructor is young but I find her extremely knowledgeable and we totally click in a teacher/student role and I've always wanted that from lessons... but I cannot help but feel extremely guilty that she's only being paid so little. Obviously I expected her to give some of the money to the barn owner, but I never imagined that she would be making less than $20 to $25 per lesson.

    (Disclaimer: The instructor is somehow related to the barn owner and I think they live in the same house but I'm not 100% sure on that.)

    I know this is stupid but should I feel guilty? I almost feel like talking to the barn owner but I know that would be overstepping things here... it just doesn't seem right in the grand scheme of things and it bugs me for some reason. It actually bugs me a lot! Sigh. :(
         
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        02-25-2011, 04:58 PM
      #2
    Showing
    Jinx, it's really none of your business how much money your instructor is keeping from her lessons. She's obviously fine with it, or she wouldn't be working that way.

    I'm not even sure how you would have found out about the arrangement unless the instructor told you, which is very immature and completely unprofessional. If she didn't tell you herself and you heard it third hand, you have no clue whether or not it's actually true.

    Either way, MYOB. It has nothing to do with you.
         
        02-25-2011, 05:06 PM
      #3
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    Jinx, it's really none of your business how much money your instructor is keeping from her lessons. She's obviously fine with it, or she wouldn't be working that way.

    I'm not even sure how you would have found out about the arrangement unless the instructor told you, which is very immature and completely unprofessional. If she didn't tell you herself and you heard it third hand, you have no clue whether or not it's actually true.

    Either way, MYOB. It has nothing to do with you.
    It wasn't third hand information, it came directly from her... and I know it's obviously non of my business, but I still don't feel right about it. Given that she works almost 2 hours with me, that's much less than minimum wage in our province which probably violates some law... regardless if she's happy with it or not, I still feel guilty?

    Some friends already think I'm being ripped off going to this barn since there are supposed better barns that charge less for longer lessons... but I feel like I'm getting my money's worth here so I guess it's worth it.

    *shrugs*
         
        02-25-2011, 05:22 PM
      #4
    Yearling
    Nevermind. You're right, I shouldn't care since it's not my problem and she's clearly free to work elsewhere. (I wouldn't pay more to increase her wage... lol.)
         
        02-25-2011, 05:24 PM
      #5
    Green Broke
    Why is the instructor with you for an hour and a half? You aren't paying for that whole time, so really...if she is keeping you company, or helping you....that is above and beyond her duty.

    I know that my coach doesn't get everything that I pay for a private lesson, because some of that would have to pay for the horse rental and arena time.

    Just because minimum wage is $10 doesn't mean that all jobs will fall under that. Horses are a private sector...like most farm jobs...and won't pay minimum wage. Its just how it goes.

    She shouldn't have told you what she is making....
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        02-25-2011, 05:27 PM
      #6
    mls
    Trained
    If she is young, somehow related AND living in the same house - chances are she is earning the money for room and board, paying off a loan, etc.

    But I agree with the others, certainly was not professional of her to share the information. The cynical side of me wonders if she was looking for tips . . .
         
        02-25-2011, 05:29 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    Sometimes when two people are working so closely together like say a teacher and a student one on one they might feel comfortable enough to open up about personal details in their lives that normally would be considered none of your business. In this case she made it your business by opening up to you and I wouldn't feel bad about having concerns even if there isn't anything you can do about it, which is most likely the case. If you guys like to chat during your lesson, maybe just ask her why she accepts only $10 for every half hour. Who knows, maybe she is working off some kind of debt. There could be a very good reason for it.
         
        02-25-2011, 05:36 PM
      #8
    Showing
    Well, I don't know how old your instructor is, but business needs to stay business.

    I don't think she should have shared her professional arrangement with you, regardless of how close she thinks you are.

    I don't know how old you are, but if you're under the age of majority, I'd be appalled if I was your parent and found out the instructor was telling you things that have nothing to do with you learning how to ride.
         
        02-25-2011, 05:37 PM
      #9
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    If she is young, somehow related AND living in the same house - chances are she is earning the money for room and board, paying off a loan, etc.
    That's what I was also thinking in which case I would understand the low wage. I just don't know why I feel bad about the deal... it's really stupid since the alternative would be me paying more which I don't want to do and as mentioned, it's non of my business anyway. *shrugs*

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    Originally Posted by mls    
    But I agree with the others, certainly was not professional of her to share the information. The cynical side of me wonders if she was looking for tips . . .
    I wouldn't say she was looking for tips, but she did convince me to switch to evening lessons with her instead of going directly through the barn owner during the day which is my preferred time. As long as I feel like I'm getting my moneys worth from her, I don't mind switching around to accommodate her schedule. I suppose it makes more sense to stick with one instructor than going with two?
         
        02-25-2011, 05:44 PM
      #10
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    I don't know how old you are, but if you're under the age of majority, I'd be appalled if I was your parent and found out the instructor was telling you things that have nothing to do with you learning how to ride.
    I don't know how old the instructor is, but she's probably 10 years younger than me. I'm not sure, I'm bad at guessing ages and it's irrelevant anyway. When I'm tacking up / un-tacking, the instructor (and other instructors) are usually there and make small talk with me - mostly about the barn / riding.

    Business is business, and I run my own business so I can appreciate that, but there's nothing wrong with idle chit chat while waiting around. I think people are just friendly around here; I'm not sure I'd want to ride at a barn where my instructor only spoke to me in the ring and never in the barn / stalls while they waited for me. :)
         

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