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post #1 of 5 Old 08-03-2013, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
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Female vs. Male?

So, this is basically just copied right from my journal..But I'd like opinions on it, because I really have no idea why she'd do this.

Soo..I found something out today about Alahna and people..I've been wondering what her issue is about someone coming up to her in her stall, but couldn't find any type of explanation..Well, BO's boyfriend is here for the week and had me realize (it didn't even click until he actually explained and didn't just show me) that it's only females she pins her ears at and occasionally bares teeth..She perked her ears up for him and as soon as I took a step toward her they were pinned flat against her head again. So I think tomorrow I'll be going to the barn and sitting/standing outside her stall for a few hours to see if that'll change anything.I've never done anything but take her out and put her back in a stall, but obviously there's something about her being in a stall and a female walking up. Come to think of it, at the last barn she'd perk her ears up at Charles and then pin them at me, even when I was bringing food.It's only when she's stalled though. Not when she's tied, standing, turned out, etc.

So..any ideas, experiences, etc?
I'm pretty sure the guy's wife I bought her from use to feed her and their other horses, and she was apparently terrified of her..I honestly believe something happened to her while she was stalled at one point though, be it from when she was at the track or her other owners up to me.
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post #2 of 5 Old 08-03-2013, 10:30 PM
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Actually, a friend of mine and I were talking about this the other night..anytime she walks past a mare's stall they pin their ears, kick, whatever but don't do the same thing to other women. As it was explained to her, some women give off stronger pheromones than others and mares being mares, react to it..call it an overdose of estrogen.

On the other hand, you are also correct. She could have had a bad run in with a woman at some point, even before her last owner, and just doesn't like women. I've seen it happen the other way around with a horse not liking men but are fine around women or children of either gender.
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post #3 of 5 Old 08-03-2013, 10:56 PM
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I am not going to speak on the gender thing although that is interesting. But in my opinion she is showing lack of respect and saying hey you I am alpha and I am in charge of you, and telling you to keep out of her space. Think about horses in a herd situation, alpha walks up, pins ears= warning/asking move, moves to bit=telling them to move, turns butt to kick=making the other horses move. Now as I am unfamiliar as to your relationship with this horse I will not get into how to fix it but pinning her ears at you is most certainly a sign of disrespect, and I would be careful around her. Personally I do not tolerate horses pinning their ears at me and any sign of aggression, especially when it comes to food, is handled swiftly.
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post #4 of 5 Old 08-03-2013, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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See, I have no doubt that I have her respect..I can move any part of her without her saying no. I ask her to move, she moves. She walks up to me in the pasture, comes when called if I have her ground tied, leads without the leadrope, etc.

I correct her when she bares teeth (very rare, has happened twice in 5-6 months) and I move her away when I bring feed or hay.

I normally don't mind pinned ears as long as they don't act upon it (she doesn't after the first week with me) because Lucky use to have her ears permanently pinned, I never saw her around any person without pinned ears. This is just bugging me because I don't know WHY, ya know?
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post #5 of 5 Old 08-04-2013, 01:58 AM
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I have not seen this issue with horses, but I have met several dogs over the course of life that have had a gender bias. My grandmother got her old dog at a couple of years old as a rescue- my cousin found her abandoned after some jerks moved out of an apartment and left her. This was the most loyal dog you would ever meet in your life. She was beyond devoted to my grandmother, and was madly in love with everyone in our family or who visited regularly. However, she hated strange men. If a lady came to the door she would bark, but then back down when she saw my grandma behaving friendly towards the guest. When a man that she didn't know would come over she would be extremely standoffish for the duration of the visit, even going so far as to stand growling at the person and refusing to let them get between herself and my grandma. She was extremely wary of most people of African American descent, male or female. Black males were expecially problematic, and college-aged black males were just a no-go without meeting them numerous times. Our hypothesis is that at some point during her pre-grandma life she was abused by someone meeting the generic "black college-aged male" description, and was fearful of people meeting said description. Animals are often subjected to untold cruelties, and they remember these events. While it may seem "racist" or "sexist", it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that they will sometimes develop these biases against certain people that meet the description of a past abuser.

All of that said, I also prefer males of most species- male horses, dogs, cats, even humans seem to be easier to deal with in my experiences...
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