I made tons of mistakes but I also learned a lot and there was no internet back then. It was trial and error.
Ah...so that's how old you are eh? I knew it! Did you wear underwear made out of stone too??
Did you ride around in one of these?
Whatever you guys do...don't accept any apples from her!!
But anyways - back onto topic.....
Great post Spyder!
The world of horses is never the same on a day to day basis. I am 34 now and am still learning things the moment I open my eyes to the time I close them. I clinic as much as I can and I take alot of lessons as much as I can. I audit, I ride, I read, I watch, I ask questions - but I still have alot to learn.
I personally find it hard at times to give advice on the internet when I am not there in person to assess the situation that is going on. It is easy to say "well, this and this" when we dictate from our own situations and experiences, when in reality we aren't the one's sitting on that horse, or seeing how that person rides.
I have a hard time conveying what I want in words on a computer, but if you were to get me in person, face to face at the barn, I could talk your ears off.
Now - you have to remember, this is a forum. It is all easy peasy to give advice as you think befits the situation - but it is hard to be accuate unless you are there in person.
It is easy to say "Solve it this way..." when you aren't there to see how the horse goes, to get on the horse and feel how it works and what its' buttons are. You can't be there in person to see what the rider is doing and how they are contributing to the situation - we can't give 100% of ourselves on the internet. Take it what it is - it's a forum.
Now, my experience, and I've learnt alot from knowledgeable and experienced people here, for one is Spyder.
I remember when I first came on, I would post "how to's" on threads where people asked about Collection and how to get it and how to get the horse on the bit and blah blah blah. I was quite adamant that you rode Back To Front - but from what I learnt from Spyder, is that's not always true...because it depends on the horse.
She told me, that you can also get the same result if you get the headset first and then engage forward, but I didn't believe it - no way I thought. But I listened and I learnt and I applied.
Take my horse Nelson, I cannot drive him forward and get a headset after, because that's not how he works. I could go around for years getting him to engage and round and soften riding him back to front, and I'd never get a "headset" from him, but that's because that is how he works. So if someone ha a horse like Nelson and I gave that advice....EEEERRRR I'd be wrong.
Now, I can get on my Buddies horse, and get the desired result if I ride him back to front, but if I tried to ride him the way I do Nelson, we'd end up in a big fight and he'd be sucked back and I wouldn't beable to achieve a soft, supple, rounded, engaged horse.
So - we can give the best advice that we can through our own experiences, but we wont always be right - and that's something you have to accept, and when someone steps in and says "well...actually..." learn from it. If I didn't listen and if I got all offended and ticked off by what I learnt from Spyder, I wouldn't of been able to get to the point I am at now.
Another example, I coach at the barn I board at, I have young and green Eventers under my wing that I work with through the week, and then we all take a lesson under our main coach once a week.
I've learnt alot from this, because I've encountered 2 types of horses. It is easy for me to say on the internet "Ride your horses rhythm" "support to the base of the fence" yadda yadda yadda - but I cannot give 100% because I don't know how the horse moves. I don't know the horses issues or what the rider is doing to contribute to the scenario.
Some horses need to be supported to the base, while other will get cut in half if they are over supported. Some need deep seats, while others don't, yadda yadda yadda -
So while we can give the best advice that we can for the post that is given to us on the forum, we have to accept that we aren't always right, and so what - who is in the horse world? You ask 5 people what to do with a horse who has a hard mouth, you get 6 different answers.
What we have control of, is how we respond to others who are there to help as well - we all have great aspects to donate.