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    11-05-2012, 11:14 AM
  #31
Weanling
Your new horse is beautiful! You are very lucky that she is so level headed. Maybe its just me, but I question how broke a 4 year old is if it has been ridden by beginners. Quiet, yes, very quiet, broke and well trained... meh. Don't get me wrong though, I would not turn away a horse like that! She will be awesome once fully trained! So if you want to send her along to me I would happily put her in my barn :)

As far as the helmet goes, you are clearly old enough to make your own decisions and if you don't want to wear one that is your choice. There shouldn't be an argument over that. Your child however does what you tell them to too. Its your responsibility to make sure they make it to that age where they can make their own decision about a helmet. It is so easy for anyone to get injured around a horse, especially a young child. You child can be the best little rider in the world, but they don't have the experience to be able to read a horses body signals or the mental capacity to make rational judgements. They are not able to look at a situation and consider the possible outcomes. They just are not mentally at that stage yet. Its your choice in the end what you want your child to do, but why wouldn't you take that extra 10 seconds to put a helmet on and protect them?
     
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    11-05-2012, 11:16 AM
  #32
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Originally Posted by pepperduck    
Your new horse is beautiful! You are very lucky that she is so level headed. Maybe its just me, but I question how broke a 4 year old is if it has been ridden by beginners. Quiet, yes, very quiet, broke and well trained... meh. Don't get me wrong though, I would not turn away a horse like that! She will be awesome once fully trained! So if you want to send her along to me I would happily put her in my barn :)

As far as the helmet goes, you are clearly old enough to make your own decisions and if you don't want to wear one that is your choice. There shouldn't be an argument over that. Your child however does what you tell them to too. Its your responsibility to make sure they make it to that age where they can make their own decision about a helmet. It is so easy for anyone to get injured around a horse, especially a young child. You child can be the best little rider in the world, but they don't have the experience to be able to read a horses body signals or the mental capacity to make rational judgements. They are not able to look at a situation and consider the possible outcomes. They just are not mentally at that stage yet. Its your choice in the end what you want your child to do, but why wouldn't you take that extra 10 seconds to put a helmet on and protect them?
We don't even own a helmet and never have, just some cowboy hats!

He has ridden a lot in his little life and I promise you he will be fine without one:)
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    11-05-2012, 11:24 AM
  #33
Weanling
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Originally Posted by BB2    
We don't even own a helmet and never have, just some cowboy hats!

He has ridden a lot in his little life and I promise you he will be fine without one:)
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You know, chances are he will be fine, but all it takes it once misstep. Hell the horse could trip and off he tumbles. We hear stories all the time of children (and adults) getting hurt, and that small amount of protection can go a long way if a situation arises. You cannot predict what will happen in life. I know I'm not going to change your mind, so I really hope that you never have to go through the pain of having your child get hurt and knowing that YOU could have easily prevented it.
     
    11-05-2012, 11:29 AM
  #34
Started
I honestly just really don't know what to say. It's very difficult to take the mod's advice and keep it civil... because this sort of thing just make me so angry.

Perhaps it's because I'm a new mom and just the thought of doing ANYTHING that could endanger my son is just beyond me. I cannot imagine doing it. I certainly don't wrap him in bubble wrap but don't go out looking for trouble, either. I don't leave him places unsupervised, heck I don't even BRING him to the stable if my hubby isn't there to watch him because my son is 18 months old and has absolutely no fear. He would walk underneath a horse without a second thought.

The longer I'm a mother the more I realize that perhaps not all mom's have the same protective, nurturing instinct. I thought it was just something that came with the territory... you have a baby, and you become a "mama bear" and would do anything, move heaven and earth if you could, to protect that amazing, wonderful gift that is your child. I can say without hesitation that I would die for him if it came to that.

So, when it comes to buying a $30 item and taking two seconds to secure that to his head when there is even the REMOTEST chance of danger (and with horses, even broke to death horses, there is ALWAYS a chance and we're fools if we think otherwise), I simply cannot fathom a SINGLE reason why you wouldn't do it.

But that's just me.
     
    11-05-2012, 11:44 AM
  #35
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Originally Posted by nikelodeon79    
I honestly just really don't know what to say. It's very difficult to take the mod's advice and keep it civil... because this sort of thing just make me so angry.

Perhaps it's because I'm a new mom and just the thought of doing ANYTHING that could endanger my son is just beyond me. I cannot imagine doing it. I certainly don't wrap him in bubble wrap but don't go out looking for trouble, either. I don't leave him places unsupervised, heck I don't even BRING him to the stable if my hubby isn't there to watch him because my son is 18 months old and has absolutely no fear. He would walk underneath a horse without a second thought.

The longer I'm a mother the more I realize that perhaps not all mom's have the same protective, nurturing instinct. I thought it was just something that came with the territory... you have a baby, and you become a "mama bear" and would do anything, move heaven and earth if you could, to protect that amazing, wonderful gift that is your child. I can say without hesitation that I would die for him if it came to that.

So, when it comes to buying a $30 item and taking two seconds to secure that to his head when there is even the REMOTEST chance of danger (and with horses, even broke to death horses, there is ALWAYS a chance and we're fools if we think otherwise), I simply cannot fathom a SINGLE reason why you wouldn't do it.

But that's just me.
Thanks for your opinion but I think it's just unnessecary. I never wore one growing up and never had and neither did my sister.

My best friend wore one every day and broke her neck riding a horse.

It's all relative.
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    11-05-2012, 11:49 AM
  #36
Trained
I understand many ADULT riders do not wear helmets. That is their choice. Many places, at least around the east coast, kids, no matter the discipline cannot ride or show without a helmet. Just the facts. Sure he will probably be fine. Personally, with my kids or grandkids I would not take that chance knowing that if something DID happen I would never forgive myself. Same with wearing shoes around horses. Sure, perhaps your kid has ridden lots etc. Just IMO, not being taught good basic safety practices. I sure hope you have good health insurance for what may happen, not that I hope it does. He may end up without a foot for gods sake. How much sense does that make? Or having him be brain damaged? Just because YOU have a hard head and choose not to is no excuse not to protect your child who is YOUR responsibility.
Now, my reference to the price issue I made reference to was to primarily point to your maturity level. Period.

And, Just like a teenager doesn't know everything, even tho they think they do, neither is it even possible that a 4 yo horse is totally broke. Sorry, but the horse is only 4. There is only so much experience that is possible in 4 yrs, and hopefully only 2 of riding.

Don't really care how much you like what everyone is saying-you posted the picture and left yourself open for the replies. THis IS a public forum, after all.
     
    11-05-2012, 11:56 AM
  #37
Weanling
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Originally Posted by BB2    
Thanks for your opinion but I think it's just unnessecary. I never wore one growing up and never had and neither did my sister.

My best friend wore one every day and broke her neck riding a horse.

It's all relative.
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Yes you can still be injured while wearing a helmet, but the severity of your injury is much less.
This is copied and pasted from the American Association of Neurological Surgeons

While head injuries comprise about 18 percent of all horseback riding injuries, they are the No. 1 reason for hospital admission. A 2007 study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that horseback riding resulted in 11.7 percent of all traumatic brain injuries in recreational sports from 2001 to 2005, the highest of any athletic activity. Of the estimated 14,446 horseback-related head injuries treated in 2009, 3,798 were serious enough to require hospitalization, for an estimated 4,958 concussions and 97 skull fractures. Subdural hematomas and brain hemorrhages comprised many of the serious injuries. According to the Equestrian Medical Safety Association, head injuries account for an estimated 60 percent of deaths resulting from equestrian accidents. While serious head injury can occur while wearing a helmet, the data very clearly shows that the severity of the head injury can be decreased through helmet wear.

While you won't care about the statistics, I wanted to post it for other people who read this thread and might get something out of it.
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    11-05-2012, 12:09 PM
  #38
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Okay I get it, I will go out and purchase a helmet ASAP! Thanks everyone!
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    11-05-2012, 12:15 PM
  #39
Green Broke
So, OP, did you get the vet out to check your other mare??
     
    11-05-2012, 12:20 PM
  #40
Foal
Holy cow people! First of all there's lots of people out there that are children and adults alike that do not wear helmets and they're fine. I for one never wore a helmet and I've been thrown, kicked, trampled, bitten, etc. Helmet wouldn't have 'prevented' anything if the horse wants you off you're going to be off and it's how you react to it and how you move your body that causes injury. Tuck and roll is the best thing to do. Most people I see getting hurt just sprawl out when they're thrown - for one thing.

Another thing is just because you believe wearing a helmet is some how magically 'mandatory' on your own private property on your own horse doesn't mean every one else will. She wasn't going to get some barn owner sued for an injury so let it go. They use one then they use one, they don't then they don't. Helmets are not the be all and end all of the world. I have never had a head injury on a horse - not that it won't happen! - but seriously? It's like they're turning into a new fad instead of an optional form of safety equipment. Use to be you never had to wear one in low impact sports ( most western events! ) and heck at the place I now board I'm only required to wear a helmet if and ONLY if I jump my horse. High impact sport there.



On another note I don't see what's wrong with putting a child on a four year old horse. If the horse has been taken through its paces - regardless of if you know for certain he/she has - it shouldn't matter how old they are. Some horses just have 'quiet' tempers and get 'bomb proof' earlier in life. My own four year old is one such horse. I'd throw a child on her any day over my 12 year old been-there-done-that gelding because she has the temper for it. Also it's not like she left him alone in the saddle. She was right there with him to help/protect him. If something happened and they went down likely she would go down and keep him above her. That's how I see it anyway. Also - if she said she worked the horse by herself first then she probably thought it was safe to let the kid get a feel for the horse.



Anyway beautiful new horse :) and sorry for the rant that just. . . Bothers me. . .
     

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