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post #1 of 28 Old 09-20-2013, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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Foundation QH's - Thoughts...

I have been kicking the idea of breeding around. I have a choice between 2 mares. One is my mom's mare, who is the mother of my gelding. She's had 5 babies, three of which have entered the AQHA show circuit and done well. 2 don't have show records so not sure what they have done. She has excellent blood lines but she's mostly halter lines so she'll give me a very bulky baby. She does have some TB in her lines but mostly quarter horse. She has three bars back to Man O War.

The other is my sister in laws horse. She is 100 percent foundation qh. I think mostly cuttin' lines. In fact, that's what they do with her. She is a money earner and has some pretty good lines. Not sure which way to go. Both mares have really good minds and conformation for what they were bred for. I think it would be fun to get into more ranch type riding. I was reading the rules on showing National Foundation QHs but I'm not sure how easy it is to find those types of shows.

Not really looking for should I breed responses because it wouldn't be until next spring and it's not a done deal. I've been considering it for over a year so there is a lot of thought going into it. It would be my second foal.

What I am looking for is opinions on which mare to go with and what types of QHs to breed to, to come up with what types of mounts. Remember, this is hypothetical for now but it's also research because if I decide to do this, then I want to go in having really researched. Which means that I'd like to read thoughts and concerns and then to take those and educate myself to make a good informed decision.

And... believe it or not, I don't want to do this because foals are cute. I know how much work they are and I know how much they cost. Trust me. I have more money in mine then I even want to tally!

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doesn't the stud you are looking at have a huge impact on this decision?

I would go foundation qh all the way. you have one type (your gelding) so why not try something different?
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doesn't the stud you are looking at have a huge impact on this decision?

I would go foundation qh all the way. you have one type (your gelding) so why not try something different?
The stud will definitely have an impact but I want to choose the mare first because if I go w/ the foundation mare, then I will want a foundation stud which will limit my options and probably send me towards the shipped semen route depending on where I find a nice stud. It will also cause me to research trainers as well...

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Could you post the pedigrees on the mares you are considering?

Although I would lean towards the cutting bred mare i can't completely discount the halter bred horses. The gray mare we used to own was old school halter bred and was about as handy as you could ever ask for ranch work. I ranch rodeoed off of her and was awesome to brand, doctor and ship on. ( now she is a college rodeo horse in MT)

Any how I think the specific bloodlines would be more telling :)
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I'll have to pull her mares papers once I ask what her registered name is again... She has a full sister and brother set. They look exactly alike. seems like Tango Machine or something like that is in both their names but I'll ask her. Both her horses have excellent minds. The mare had a colt last spring. They aren't doing anything with him yet but he'll be a cuttin' horse.

My mare is Impressive bred. (HYPP/NN)

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Why not buy a foal already on the ground? Then you can get the exact color and gender you want. It still takes 2 years for them to grow up anyway!

I just wish people would stop breeding. The rescue I work with gets really nice horses in all the time. Nothing wrong with them, just not broke, no one bothered to do anything with them. The university around here puts down their research horses (who are healthy but aren't broke). They try to adopt them out if they can, but it doesn't always happen. Not very old either (7-10 yrs old). It makes me sick.

Too many QH's on the market already.

Sorry if that isn't what you want to hear. I just saw a few horses for sale the other day for $200 just because they aren't broke. One's a half sister to my horse so I was thinking of going and looking at her. She looks just like my mare's sire. Jet black. Pretty. I spent $1800 on my mare as a yearling but that was before the market crashed. Just shows you how bad the horse market it right now.
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Why not buy a foal already on the ground? Then you can get the exact color and gender you want. It still takes 2 years for them to grow up anyway!

I just wish people would stop breeding. The rescue I work with gets really nice horses in all the time. Nothing wrong with them, just not broke, no one bothered to do anything with them. The university around here puts down their research horses (who are healthy but aren't broke). They try to adopt them out if they can, but it doesn't always happen. Not very old either (7-10 yrs old). It makes me sick.

Too many QH's on the market already.

Sorry if that isn't what you want to hear. I just saw a few horses for sale the other day for $200 just because they aren't broke. One's a half sister to my horse so I was thinking of going and looking at her. She looks just like my mare's sire. Jet black. Pretty. I spent $1800 on my mare as a yearling but that was before the market crashed. Just shows you how bad the horse market it right now.
I don't really care about the color or the gender. I want a good, solid horse. I have the means to pay for it and the place to keep it. I want it to be a registered QH. I have 3 unregistered horses and 2 registered. I got my first horse as a 3 year old, he is not 29 and still in my barn. I buy or breed for life but thank you for your opinion.

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I think it would be a good idea, then I think people could suggest a good cross for either mare and then you can look at your stud options.
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Why not buy a foal already on the ground? Then you can get the exact color and gender you want. It still takes 2 years for them to grow up anyway!

I just wish people would stop breeding. The rescue I work with gets really nice horses in all the time. Nothing wrong with them, just not broke, no one bothered to do anything with them. The university around here puts down their research horses (who are healthy but aren't broke). They try to adopt them out if they can, but it doesn't always happen. Not very old either (7-10 yrs old). It makes me sick.

Too many QH's on the market already.

Sorry if that isn't what you want to hear. I just saw a few horses for sale the other day for $200 just because they aren't broke. One's a half sister to my horse so I was thinking of going and looking at her. She looks just like my mare's sire. Jet black. Pretty. I spent $1800 on my mare as a yearling but that was before the market crashed. Just shows you how bad the horse market it right now.
It depends on where your at.
Here, the last two sales I have been to, yearlings averaged $2000, good broke ranch horses will bring between $3000- $12000, registered or not. But back yard bred horses bring backyard prices. Depends on which market and where.
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Of what breeding will the stud be?

If you want to get more in to ranchy type horses then I would concider breeding the cutting mare indefinitely. Bonus the mare is already established in the cutting world so shes proven in what you want the foal for.
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