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post #1 of 10 Old 10-06-2010, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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Ok-so some of you know, I have been working on free leasing my 21 YO clyde cross to a local therapeutic riding center. They are an excellent facility, and the horses are very well cared for, and they are CONSTANTLY advertising that they need horses.

My guy is a big puppy dog, and would be perfect. He has some arthritis in hos hock, which is well controlled with a supplement (which I will provide) and a possible old suspensory (right pastern slopes differently than the left), altho he was NEVER off, so it may even be since birth. Who knows. I am sure it has been YEARS. So, my BO knows the people who run the facilty, and she (and I ) started this process about 6 weeks ago. They do not call unless I stay on them, and when I finally DO get hold of them, they want something...now. They have sent 2 of their instructors out to see him, ride him, video him, I have ridden him for them. Last time was a week ago, at which the instructor told me she was meeting with the manager and would have a decision soon. Well......finally called the manager myself yesterday. She wants me to bring him to their place today. Fine. But why did we have to go thru 2 other people if she is the only one who can make a decision. What a waste of time. They are concerned....get this....that he will hold up under the work they will put him thru. Ok-they do walk-trot, mostly on a leadline. Not sure how stressfull that would be. They are well aware that I am moving back to VA next week, and need this resolved. If they want him, take him for the winter, if he doesn;t work, I will pay them board (their suggestion) until I return in the spring. No harm, no foul. It is also quite possible that he will work beautifully for them.
It seems to me(and others who are familiar with them) that they want perfect horses for free. This just does not seem reasonable, in my mind. Also keep in mind this is a FREE LEASE. Something happens, he is still mine, and I will take him back. They are making it SO difficult it is no wonder they need horses!
I just don't get it. He basically lives on air, wears no shoes, so is a low overhead, easy maintenance guy....... And if you don't want him, fine-just let me know that! I really don't care at this point!

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post #2 of 10 Old 10-06-2010, 08:20 AM
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That seems to be a pretty common experience with that type of situation.

I hope you get it resolved to the satisfaction of both of you. It certainly does sound like a good way to get a nice easy but steady work load into an old timer.
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I can't stand when people do that, with anything. He sounds like a real sweet guy I wish I could take him.
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post #4 of 10 Old 10-06-2010, 09:15 AM
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I just visited your barn...he is absolutely beautiful!! The situation you are having right now has to be hard to handle. What are you going to do if they do decide not to take him?

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post #5 of 10 Old 10-06-2010, 09:25 AM
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They are concerned....get this....that he will hold up under the work they will put him thru.

It is also quite possible that he will work beautifully for them.

It seems to me(and others who are familiar with them) that they want perfect horses for free. This just does not seem reasonable, in my mind.
Well yes - they are concerned. With good reason.

Have you ever watched the classes? These riders are not traditional riders. All of them have special needs - physical or mental. They need a horse that will tolerate A LOT - also physically and mentally.

Yes it IS possible he will work out beautifully and also possbily not.

The programs around here run on fund raising and donations of E V E R Y T H I N G. (horses, equipment, feed, etc) It's a therapy. Can you imagine taking your special needs child to his weekly riding session only to be told the horse couldn't handle the pressure and they could not allow him to ride that week?
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Well yes - they are concerned. With good reason.
I completely agree. Even usual good lesson barn is concerned what horse is coming in. Special needs riders - they should be 10 times more concerned. We have one running in Carroll Co and they are very careful about horses and instructors. I hope it'll work out for you and horse, from what I've heard special riders adore horses and are very gentle and loving towards them.
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I've volunteered at a therapeutic equestrian center and what you are going through is very common. It takes a very special horse to work out in those programs. Any small chance of the horse doing something uncalled for and there could be huge ramifications and not only for the rider, but for the center as well.

Where I am, the center gets some money from the government - and the chances of that being revoked if something were to go amiss are overwhelming. Not to mention the trauma to the rider, whether it is physical or mental.

I'm not saying that your boy is not going to work out, you know him best and you are probably 100% correct that he would be suited for the program. Unfortunately, places like that can not take any chances, whatsoever.
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Well-they kept him. What they were worried about was an old suspensory-which may have even been a birthdefect. Other than his arthritis prior to his supplements, be was a bit hitchy at times, but NEVER lame. They were concerned about him PHYSICALLY holding up. Which I am not worried about.

Bottom line-they loved him. This is a very special horse who will, honestly, be perfect at this. He is the most loving affectionate guy, who always watches out for his rider.. He had not been off the farm in 4 years. Went there, got off the trailer, went in the indoor, went thru the drills, with them flailing, acting like a spastic child could, threw balls from him and at him....he never flinched. Yet-they still need to know they can bring him back if he doesn't work. Thank god for my best friend-she owns the barn where he has been for 5 years, and of course, they can return him any time. If he had not been accepted, that is where he would stay-forever. I am not giving up ownership, and never will, just really think he will enjoy the attention, especially when I live out of state 6 months out of the year. I am NOT looking to permanently rehome him. Just give him a job and some purpose for now.
I returned there later in the pm after leaving him in the am-went to put his sheet on him, since I didn't have it with me this am.....anyway-he came over, but kept running away-very unlike him. I prefer to think he is happy there-it is a beautiful facility and the horses are extremely well cared for. I will go out a couple more times prior to going back to Va for the winter, but I think he will be fine. He is very much a people guy...and there it is constant traffic.
Still-have to say-very mixed emotions......selfishly I liked knowing he was just over at my friends......

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I just visited your barn...he is absolutely beautiful!! The situation you are having right now has to be hard to handle. What are you going to do if they do decide not to take him?
Thanks. No worries-if they don't take him he stays where he has been for 5 years. My friends beautiful 300 acres of lovliness in NY. He loves it there. And that is where he will go back to if this doesn't work out. Love small town stuff......they all know each other and have for years!

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I completely agree. Even usual good lesson barn is concerned what horse is coming in. Special needs riders - they should be 10 times more concerned. We have one running in Carroll Co and they are very careful about horses and instructors. I hope it'll work out for you and horse, from what I've heard special riders adore horses and are very gentle and loving towards them.
The one in Carroll County was my back up plan....... I know he will be well loved by the riders. This place actually has a new program for the vets theu the local Va hospital als, and with his size, that may be his specialty. When I left him I could only think how much my daughters fiance loved him and would love to see him in this program.....he is my signature.

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