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post #11 of 74 Old 02-09-2013, 07:38 PM
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I hate people like that. I don't jump very much but even I know that. You have to give the horse enough room to be able to speed up and clear the jump. He just needs a reality check. And fast.
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post #12 of 74 Old 02-09-2013, 07:44 PM
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Whether your horse was disobeying or not is not the point. You did not ask for help . . . AT ALL. And you were extremely tolerant of his interferring. I suspect becuase he is older than you and it's hard for a young person to tell an adult, (especially a male) "No!" or "No thanks, I am fine on my own".

But that's what you have to do with people like him , and soon , before it gets out of hand.

You demonstrated great maturity and courtesy to not say anything off color in front of his children. I commend you. REally.
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post #13 of 74 Old 02-09-2013, 08:01 PM
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My horse has never kicked at a person, but in that situation I might have wished he would have....

Kudos to you for keeping your cool for his kids.
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post #14 of 74 Old 02-09-2013, 08:09 PM
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Wow! Props to you!!
I would have been like "Do NOT touch my horse OR run up behind her again!!! If you want to give ME advice that's fine, but don't tell me about my horse or touch her. I know her, you don't."
And I probably would have pointed out that it was a very bad thing to show to his kids... Not only did he run up in the kick zone, but he smacked her there... If he had done that to some of the horses I've known they would have knocked him on his back....
Running up and slapping a horse there would be a very good thing to teach the kids not to do :/
Also... Does he have any horses in your horse's field?
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You didn't ask for help, however you are not declining it from what you said, until you lost your temper. So how was he to know.
People who interfere are annoying, and he has no place doing that - but he's German, there's a cultural difference, Germans tend to be forthright, and expect you to be so too. If you don't want his opinion, tell him so.


But gosh, I disagree with your opinion about his horsemanship. He sounds decent.

The striding was wrong on the jumps, but your horse was running out on the first jump because of it - but yet your horse was not disobeying you? Erm no.

Also, you were riding, set your horse loose in the arena while you helped the BO (that's kind of you). But I don't think you get to reserve the arena while you are doing other things, and I certainly wouldn't wait for you to do that.
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Ugh, that is awful! I hate people who try and "help" without being asked!

Really good job keeping your head, though . . . I probably would have gone nuts on him.
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post #17 of 74 Old 02-09-2013, 08:11 PM
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Also just to point out.. It sounds like your horse is one that likes to please, but it sounds like she was afraid.... I don't think it was because the strides were wrong. But either way she definitely wasn't disobeying at all

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I think it might have been a combo of her fear plus the strides. I'm really proud of her for what she did. Alex S- You aren't correct in this. My horse knew she couldn't take the jump, so she didn't try. She does like to please. If you had seen the set up of it, you'd be able to see. It is hard to paint an exact picture of it with words. He doesn't have good horsemanship. Instead of get confrontational with him (as he isn't the type to take things lightly) I just chose to ignore him. I didn't want to say anything bad in front of the girls and I didn't want to argue in front of them either. Had he been alone it would have been another matter. And I apologize if I made it seem like I was riding and just left my horse there so no one could use the arena. I was lounging her before, with no tack on, and went to help the BM. No one else was waiting. We turn horses out in the indoor loose like that sometimes. She was perfectly safe and I wasn't holding up anyone else. Sorry if I made it seem otherwise. I guess in my anger I didn't explain myself well.
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Nokota-No he doesn't own a horse at this time. He leases the mare 3 times a week. All the horses he rides are owned by someone else. He sure as hell is never using my mare. :p
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I think it might have been a combo of her fear plus the strides. I'm really proud of her for what she did. Alex S- You aren't correct in this. My horse knew she couldn't take the jump, so she didn't try. She does like to please. If you had seen the set up of it, you'd be able to see. It is hard to paint an exact picture of it with words. He doesn't have good horsemanship. Instead of get confrontational with him (as he isn't the type to take things lightly) I just chose to ignore him. I didn't want to say anything bad in front of the girls and I didn't want to argue in front of them either. Had he been alone it would have been another matter. And I apologize if I made it seem like I was riding and just left my horse there so no one could use the arena. I was lounging her before, with no tack on, and went to help the BM. No one else was waiting. We turn horses out in the indoor loose like that sometimes. She was perfectly safe and I wasn't holding up anyone else. Sorry if I made it seem otherwise. I guess in my anger I didn't explain myself well.
Haha nobody blames you :)
But it is obvious to my by what you said that he has no clue what he's doing. I've met many people like that. I once knew these people who had this beautiful little draft or draft cross that looked like a gypsy vanner. They didn't know anything at all. One time on the trail, I'm not sure why, but the guy decided to give me advice. He told me that when my horse takes off to just lean back and pull as hard as I can on the reins until the horse stops.... mhmm... I just said thank you and moved on.
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