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post #41 of 44 Old 08-27-2013, 02:12 PM
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If you read what I said, the men I ride with don't take our mares out when in season due to their behavour. I find it disconcerting that you would take an in season mare out in a group setting in that condition. As for the legal side of it. Your mare gets into my property that make you responsible in law. As for you controling your mare while in season I ride mares and bull to that. You can not stop the horse from doing what nature intended and as such it upsets the other horses and makes for danger. My signature tells you what neck of the woods I come from. Blaiming the owners of Stallions or rigs is in my opinion is a horse owner who does not take responsibility for there own charge And I would win in court.
Well all mare owner must be bad owners for taking their mare out then. And with saying you can't prevent a horse from doing "what nature intend" stallions would be down right impossible to own. If a stallion owner can keep their stallions breeding instincts under control then why do you think its so impossible for mare owners to do the same? I've NEVER disturbed any ride with my in season mare, otherwise I would take her home or just not ride. I'VE never ever had a slight issue with riding her in company with others.

I'm on my phone so I cannot see where you neck of the woods is

And if my mare broke is into your stallions pen I wouldn't hold you accountable. If your stallion broke into my pen I would hold you accountable for any associated foal fees. As a stallion owner, IMO, its your duty to prevent this type of thing.

I still highly doubt you could recoup your stud fee if a mare broke into your stallions paddock (which should be "stallion proof", making it next to impossible to penetrate), but if you think you can... Well good luck with that. I'd fight you tooth and nail.
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post #42 of 44 Old 08-27-2013, 02:15 PM
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I have witnessed Mares in season causing danger and harm to others As for training A horse is an animal that when threatened only one thing on its mind and that is self preservation. No amount of training will over come millions of years of instinct. We are on their backs because they allow us to be. Ever had your horse get such a fright it takes the bit between its teeth and its gone. Come on it is dangerous to think you can train out instinct. There is no such thing as a bomb proof horse or any animal.
Not exactly sure where your going between dangerous mares, being threatened, self preservation and bomb proofing. Like I said, by this logic stallions would be impossible to contain, ride and handle.
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post #43 of 44 Old 08-27-2013, 03:22 PM
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Stan and Slidestop, you both are right. How's this? If a mare gets loose and in with a stallion, the mare owner is responsible. If the stallion gets loose and in with the mare, the stallion owner is responsible.

I've heard of more stallions getting loose than mares in heat. So generally, the stallions are then responsible for the breeding. It's not impossible or unheard of for mares to get loose and hunt the stallion down.

Both are right on this also. You can't train instinct out of a horse but you can train them to not act on it. If you couldn't, stallions definitely couldn't be rode with a mare in heat. Same with mares in heat, you can train them to not act on instinct of wanting to breed. We ride our mares when in heat without issues. If they were to start acting mare-ish, the would be corrected, even a CTJ meeting if needed.

It all falls on the owner that lets the horse act on instincts.
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post #44 of 44 Old 08-27-2013, 04:10 PM
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You don't need to worry about him covering a mare and getting her in foal even if he is a crypt orchid (proud cut). Sperm in undescended testicles cannot impregnate as the internal body temperature is too high for development of proper sperm. Can't happen :)
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