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post #91 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:13 PM
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Like I said, if possible. I know we don't live in a perfect world and awful things sometimes have to happen. I was just offended that so many people jumped to murder so quickly, especially when talking theoretically about options.
The horse jumped to that himself. When he tried to 'murder' the girl.
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post #92 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:13 PM
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They all jumped to that because that horse deliberately aimed at her head he slowed down planted launched then ran off. If any of my horses did that there would A be a come to Jesus butt whooping if it happened again he'd be gone. I have too much too lose to be purposely risking my life with an animal who aims to kill. Sorry way too many good horses out there.

Same goes for a dog there are thousands of dogs out there for me why would I risk being tore up or being sued because the known aggressive dog attacked?

I love animals but I don't play that game. Too many sue happy people out there
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Like I said, if possible. I know we don't live in a perfect world and awful things sometimes have to happen. I was just offended that so many people jumped to murder so quickly, especially when talking theoretically about options.
Murder...seriously?? It's not as if anyone is suggesting to inhumanely slaughter this horse. It was suggested to put down a vicious and dangerous horse. I'm willing to bet you shudder at the thought of horses being sold to meat buyers at the auctions as well. Regardless of how much we love our horses we must remember they are large powerful animals fully capable of killing us if the mood strikes them.

If you are willing to take on the responsibility of horse ownership, then you should always have a plan of action should something go wrong. In theory, that is.
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post #94 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:16 PM
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Calling talking about euthanizing a dangerous horse "murder" is straight up anthropomorphising the animals and is dangerous.

Directly from dictionary.com, this is the definition of murder:

"1. The killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder) and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)"

Nowhere in there does it say that putting an animal to sleep is murder.

Like has been said: there are WAY too many good horses out there without homes to try to save the bad ones.
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post #95 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:18 PM
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I think I will point out that most of us on here are pro slaughter for the good of the horse economy.

Just to get that out in the clear, not trying to hijack the thread.


My family sent a TB mare to the auction because she liked to blowup and try and hurt people. She'd be fine and then explode into bucking and rearing fits. She was dangerous, plain and simple. We gave her a lot of 'second' chances and then decided that it wasn't worth getting hurt. We sent her through auction with a note, "TB mare, 8 years old, broke to ride, but unpredictable". She went to 'Ron, pen...' One of the local meat buyers.

On the dog note, we had a dog that turned on my brother. When my dad went to chain him up so that the kids could be outside playing, the dog tried to bite him. That was the end of the dog. We have kids, and kids are more precious than any animal could ever be.

They are animals. Companions, friends, protectors, pets, yes... But they turn nasty and that is that. It's not worth anyone's life, just to keep 'fido' or 'fanny' alive. Do we love our horses and dogs, yes we do, a lot! But also can think through fantasies.
I am not sure what you want me to say about this. So I am going to state (lol yes it is obviously clear) that I am against slaughter, and that I will agree to disagree.
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Bijou, what do you define as being "necessary" conditions for "murdering" a horse? I'm having a hard time understanding why you don't think this horse's actions justify him being humanely put down. Someone's LIFE will always be at risk when working with horses like these. Is it really worth a human life to try and train an unpredictable, dangerous horse? Is it fair to expect any trainer to deal with these horses?
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Oooops.....anyway.....I don't want to wake up to this everyday......
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The horse jumped to that himself. When he tried to 'murder' the girl.
I agree, but horses don't have the thinking capacity of humans. While it was deliberate and planned it was still acted on impulse. These are pre-thought out responses without prior abuse.
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5Bijou5, who do you love most in your life?

For me it's my husband, sister and Mum.

If I have a choice of who I would rather grieve, then it would be me. For sure I would be terribly sad that I put a dangerous horse to sleep or moved it along - however I would rather that that the pain my hubby, sis and Mum would feel if I died.
It's not really about a will to live on my part or not, bam it would be over - it's about what it is important in my life.

Would your Mom or whoever is most important in your life, would they rather have you or a horse?
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