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post #111 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:38 PM
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Very much so. I totally agree, and I HATE this girl.
I was saying that the horse was abused by this girl and acting on impulse. you compared the horse trying to kill to the people trying to kill. I was making the point that these people aren't acting on impulse and weren't abused.
I disagree the horse was acting on impulse. I believe this is common with this horse and he knows he can do whatever he wants. I'm willing to bet he had every intention of getting her off of his back the moment she climbed on, and tha kick to the head was just the icing on the cake and proved his point that he is the boss, not her.
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post #112 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:38 PM
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What would you do with this horse, Bijou? Would you work with him?

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I don't nearly have the skills to work with this horse. I am not going to try and think otherwise. BUT people on the internet (who have no actual say in what happens to the horse) shouldn't start screaming "KILL IT!" "KILL IT!" and then saying how much they love these animals.
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post #113 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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In that case, she's even more lucky than I first thought. It doesn't take much of a hit to cause some serious brain damage.
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Okay, I only watched the video and skipped over much of the following thread, though I did get the gist of most of it.

That is not the first time that horse has kicked. A first time kicker will generally not aim with such clear deliberation and precise targeting. Therefore, the horse is a kicker. It will happen again, perhaps next time he'll catch her in the face or the neck or the back where there is nothing to protect her. Unfortunately, it may take a crushed face or a broken spine for her to realize that the horse is troubled.

Frankly, I don't really see that as worthy of the "you need to wear a helmet" argument. To me, that video is more proof of "you need to learn how to train/handle a horse properly".

I can't say for certain that I would definitely put the horse down for that, but that would certainly be the final option if I deemed that the horse was not going to be able to be trained out of that. I won't keep a kicker and, if he wouldn't stop, I couldn't sell him in good conscience. Therefore, I'd have him put down...or shipped off to slaughter.

With the horse market like it is, I've got no use for a horse I can't trust and I'd never trust that horse even if he never offered to kick again. I wouldn't want to keep him, but at the same time, I wouldn't dare try to sell him without full disclosure about his issues which would include a history as a kicker. That alone would knock out much of the limited market for a horse like him. So, he's essentially worthless.
I wish I could go back and change the title of the thread, but I can't. I wasn't thinking clearly when I made the title....not only that, but I spelled "wear" wrong and my OCD is kicking in and it is killing me to see it lol!
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post #115 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:39 PM
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Congrats, you won that bet. Also I am fully aware our animals can kill us. I am also fully aware we can kill our horses (not with our bare hands of course, but so may people here seem to mention other ways) I prefer to keep things less barbaric and decide to keep the killing all around to a minimum :)
I don't know if this is correct but it seems by the way you worded it in your post that your first plan of action when something goes wrong is to kill it... sounds logical.
I and two other people were nearly killed by a horse with persistently violent tendancies. I got kicked in the face and had my face torn. I had a severe concussion and would've suffocated to death had the ambulence been any later. To this day, I still suffer from this incident. This horse had a million chances to shape up but never did. The owners of the horse only enabled its behavior. This horse should've been put in the ground in the first place instead of nearly taking the lives of 3 people. Now tell me to MY MAIMED FACE that not putting this horse down was the logical choice.
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post #116 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:40 PM
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Robs you big meanie :) didn't you just save a little filly?


LOL, yep, but she's not a "problem" horse.

She's currently worthless, monetarily speaking, but she won't stay that way.
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I don't nearly have the skills to work with this horse. I am not going to try and think otherwise. BUT people on the internet (who have no actual say in what happens to the horse) shouldn't start screaming "KILL IT!" "KILL IT!" and then saying how much they love these animals.
I'm not sure where you read "KILL IT! KILL IT!"?

I think most of us just said it needed a bullet because it was a kick intended to kill, perfectly aimed with experienced precision.
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post #118 of 157 Old 04-10-2013, 10:42 PM
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There's not a single person here who would be happy to put a horse to sleep. Hang around a while and see the massive grief we feel we when lose our animals. I think you are misjudging us. We all love horses or we would not be here.

One of the worst days in my life was when I put my dog to sleep, it was just sheer hell. But he was in a coma and even with the help of vets and meds for 8 hours he wouldn't wake up. He'd been ill, and it was time. His ashes are sitting in a box above me right now, his photo is next to my bed. That day at the vets cost me $4k, and I came home with a box.

Please don't act morally superior, just because you have a different point of view. Get to know us a bit before you do that.
I am not trying to be superior. I am sorry to hear this. One of my dogs was put to sleep (I had no choice in it what so ever, wasn't even told til after) and it was....I didn't speak, barely ate or moved for a month. I realize how awful it must have been for you.
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Where in my post did I say anything about my first plan of action being to kill it if something goes wrong?? I said when you have a large animal capable of killing you, you have should have a plan of action should something go wrong.

That's not saying the horse looked at me wrong so I think it should be shot.
good. I am very glad. I didn't think so, it was just the impression I got. Sorry for the confusion.
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I can't even form a coherent thought let alone put it into words to describe how I feel about the video.
Appalled? I guess that will have to do.

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