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        03-13-2013, 11:36 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    There could definitely be a better way of going about it. Instead of taking off the chin strap, it should be left on. Like someone said it's almost like a nylon shank. If a horse tugs on it and the pressure increases that they're not used to, they could freak in the hands of a non-horsey person.

    I would personally hang the halter on each stall door with a hook or something. You wouldn't have to run back and forth for each halter, you just run to each door. That would also help with fit. You wouldn't have to worry about which halter fits which horse as the one hanging on their door is specifically for them.

    Also, like someone else already said, leather halters would be best as nylon melts at a lower temp. It would be more expensive in the beginning, but by god if it saves your horse's face from burning and them thinking they're going to die, then it would be best to shell out some extra money.

    It's a great idea. Henny always has a lead rope tied around his paddock gate. It can easily/quickly be undone and clipped around his neck. He's well versed in walking around with a lead around his neck as that's how I bring him in every day. He also has a couple halters and leads hanging up on his stall door. It seems to be something a lot of people at my barn don't do. It would be a shame if their horse was lost because they couldn't find a halter or lead. :/
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        03-13-2013, 11:38 AM
      #12
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    Its a great idea - can be easily tweaked to suit individual barn set ups
    The thought of a barn fire terrifies me and anything that can make saving horses easier is worth having
         
        03-13-2013, 05:31 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    I saw this previously and have several problems with the whole thing.

    In the first place, each horse should have a halter by its stall, the time to go get these, can mean the difference between losing your life, and horses too. Not to mention, depending on where fire is? You may be able to get to some horses, but not the halters where they are hanging.

    Each horse has its own halter by its stall is the rule for a safe barn.

    Secondly? The whole concept of taking off the bottom strap and throatlatch off of halter and running lead through ring? One of the dumbest things I've seen. Can't figure out if the lead is supposed to go through mouth, or under chin, but either way is guaranteed to come off over ears when horse pulls back, and then what?

    And we've all had horses get high headed, and in panic? You will play hell getting this on horse, going under and up to halter, like normal, means you have better control of horse to boot.

    This will not let non horsey people figure out how to halter, and may well end up with horse grabbing/getting lead in mouth and then where will you be? And this halter will not let you tie off horse to keep it from running back into stall either. So, you have accomplished nothing.

    Horses will run right back into burning barn, if they are stall horses, and used to only being led in and out of stall, so with no way to tie? Might as well stand there and listen to them scream while they burn to death.

    And sadly? People are going to see this foolish idea and think this is thing to do, and it is not.
         
        03-13-2013, 05:37 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Seems like a good idea. But what others have said, the nylon has a low melting point. And not to mention, the brass could easily heat up and cause problems with the horse being lead.
         
        03-14-2013, 06:30 AM
      #15
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    Everyone's talking about the no throat piece part... I've ridden (accidentally) in a bridle with no throatlash, both bitted and bitless.. And I've used halters like that on both cows and horses and never had one come off yet.. Touch wood.

    So to get the horses out of a burning building, yeah it'll work, but in saying that, even if you have a halter on every horse, your not going to be able to lead more than one scared horse out at a time are you? That would be disastrous, leading several scared panicky horses out of a burning building at once, wouldn't it? Personally I keep all my gates around the place closed, and everywhere around here that has stables does too, so if they need to get the horses out fast, they can shoot them out the stable door and let go to go grab the next one
         
        03-14-2013, 07:05 AM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Holly. If the horses are stalled horses? They will dash right back into the burning barn to the "safety" of their stall.

    Horses do not fear fire per se. Only way to make sure horses stay out of barn is to secure them behind fence or to tie.
         
        03-14-2013, 05:07 PM
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    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    Holly. If the horses are stalled horses? They will dash right back into the burning barn to the "safety" of their stall.

    Horses do not fear fire per se. Only way to make sure horses stay out of barn is to secure them behind fence or to tie.
    Oh wow, I always thought the opposite, wouldn't it still be difficult to get all the horses out even with halters and leads in that case? You would have to have a paddock or something right around the corner to shove them all in wouldn't you?
    This becomes a situation where i'm glad my horses aren't stalled ones, they live out 24/7, our only risk here is flooding, but you get more of a warning from floods than fires around here
         
        03-14-2013, 05:59 PM
      #18
    Green Broke
    I think the basic concept us still a good idea. Have easy to use halters ready in an available spot (stall would be my preference)

    I also like the halters that clip onto the cheek piece so all you have to do is slip on he nose and over the ear and you have a use able halter then if there's time you hook up the clip to the cheek piece



    So my thought would be to have these hanging strapped up next to the stall with the bottom clip undone. Then whoever can just slip it on, clip it and go.
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        03-14-2013, 06:42 PM
      #19
    Showing
    It looks like a good idea at first glance, but I'm not sure it would work in practice for the reasons mentioned above. One improvement I would definitely make is to write "Nose" and Ears" in Sharpie on the corresponding parts of the halter to make sure there's no confusion if a non-horse person needs to use it in an emergeny.
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        03-14-2013, 06:55 PM
      #20
    Showing
    While I agree that the thought is a good one, I agree with Roperchick, I would much rather have the halters with the snap throatlatch on them so that it really is a full halter once it's on there.

    Also agree that the halters should be on the individual stall because if the fire happened to start at the end of the barn where the halters are at, then they'd all be burned up and of no use.

    I wonder if these folks have other extinguishers around too or if they just have those 2?
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