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    View Poll Results: What is your dominate hand and which hand do you use your whip in?
    I'm right handed and ride with the whip in my right hand 21 33.33%
    I'm right handed and ride with the whip in my left hand 2 3.17%
    I'm left handed and ride with the whip in my left hand 3 4.76%
    I'm left handed and ride with the whip in my right hand 0 0%
    I switch so it's always in my inside hand 28 44.44%
    I switch so it's always in my outside hand 9 14.29%
    Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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        11-01-2013, 09:45 AM
      #21
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    I don't use a whip with my own horses, my one is terrified of them(although I've successfully desensitized him to the lunge whip, and now he doesn't respect it ugh) and my mare doesn't need a whip. But I do need to use one in my lessons since the lesson horses know when you don't have one lol.

    Sorry I didn't think of adding a "depends" option. I didn't add the option for not using one, since I just wanted to know how uncommon it was for someone to feel more comfortable with it in their non-dominate hand, seems pretty uncommon, from what I'm seeing it's either people switch, or use their dominate hand lol..guess I really am that odd
         
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        11-01-2013, 01:40 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    A crop isn't useful if you do not use/practice using it ambidexterously. It is an extension of your arm and you ride with two of those. =b
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        11-01-2013, 01:41 PM
      #23
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    All of my horses have responded badly to a whip.
    That is because I never use one, and don't see the need for it. Whip my horse and you will need to hang on for dear life because he will let you know how he feels about it.
    Then I also ride with a loose rein and often bitless. I surpose it is a relationship thing, he trust me and I trust him. I panicing horse will take the bit between its teeth and run and its skill that will bring him up not devices designed to inflict as much pressure as posible.

    Bad behaviour is treated with a stern growl so, as I am right handed that hand is free for the hip flask or a camera.
         
        11-01-2013, 01:45 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    I would seriously suggest that you desensitize your horse to a whip. You may ride with people in the future who DO carry a whip. If you horse continues to be frightened of whips, you'll have a shying, spooking horse on your hands. I have never fully trusted ANY of the ~35 horses I have owned in my life. If I need to retrieve buckets in the pasture and it's windy and my 3 are playing, I carry a whip to remind them NOT to run into/over me, and they respect it, but are not afraid of it. Whips are an extension of your arm and your authority. They are not evil, and even a horse that has been beaten can be retrained to calmy obey a whip.
         
        11-01-2013, 02:14 PM
      #25
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    My horse is not botherd by a whip in hand just it being used on him. I often ride with 100 or more horses setting out on a trek and whips are rearly seen. Even at the ranch horse clubs I have attended whips are rearly seen.

    If a horse has a moment of miss behaviour then it is time out allowing the moment to pass.

    You can ride along side my horse with a whip he will not be bothered but if you use it on him, look out, not only from the horse but also from me. We don't need to inflict pain or fear onto the horse to get it to respond.

    One lady thought she knew it all, and as my horse Stella would not go forward came up behind but to one side and landed a wack on the rump. Stella backed into her and I also gave her a piece of my mind. This knowing person did not take the time to work out why the horse would not go forward she just reacted with a whip.

    The reason the horse would not go forward was a dog was laying infront of the horse and the horse was working out what to do and I was giving the horse support by not showing any concern but just waiting for her to get her head around the problem.

    Whips are not required. In the circle of riders I spend most of my time with we train our horses to respond without a whip.

    If a longe is required they are never hit with it. It is used as an extention of my arm.

    So getting my horse used to a whip incase someone else has one, perhaps the someone else might consider changing the way they treat the horse.

    Cheers
         
        11-01-2013, 02:42 PM
      #26
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Stan    
    ...I panicing horse will take the bit between its teeth and run and its skill that will bring him up not devices designed to inflict as much pressure as posible...
    FWIW, one of the reasons to use a curb bit is to prevent the horse from being able to get the bit between its teeth. With a curb, the horse will soon figure out that grabbing the bit in its teeth (or stretching its head out so the snaffle rests against the molars) does nothing to relieve the pressure on the poll or jaw.

    Not all horses need or respond well to a curb. However, with Mia, switching to a curb broke her of that in just a few rides.

    Back to topic: My whip is a leather strap on the horn. It gets used when she doesn't respond properly to a squeeze of the calf, and usually first on MY leg. The noise is enough to get her moving faster. Using one hand on the reins means my right hand is normally free, so that is the hand that goes for the whip. I normally have it wrapped once around the horn, and unwrapping it is often enough to convince her. Actually hitting her with it might result in an unplanned trip to Mexico, which is only 60 miles away...

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        11-01-2013, 02:52 PM
      #27
    Green Broke
    Well, Stan, I disagree. Bsms has shown that spending lots and lots of time with your horse AND using a standard method of impulsion--the "whip"--isn't abuse. My horses, who were ALSO my lesson horses, understood that when a student flicked a whip out the smack came afterwards, so they would stop tuning out the rider. Horses have better memories than an elephant, but are, perhaps, more forgiving.
    Horses do NOT reason. Sometimes a horse will take really good care of you when you make the wrong decision, but mostly they do not. It is the same argument that people use to avoid training a horse to load in a trailer, or, in your case to reason that everyone doesn't need to abuse a horse with a "bit."
    I do not think I will change your opinion, so I won't try. But, PLEASE, don't make the rest of us into animal abusers bc we choose to use methods of training that have worked for millenia.
         
        11-01-2013, 02:53 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stan    
    My horse is not botherd by a whip in hand just it being used on him. I often ride with 100 or more horses setting out on a trek and whips are rearly seen. Even at the ranch horse clubs I have attended whips are rearly seen.
    Ever see a working cowboy carrying a whip? (That is, a riding crop for use on the horse being ridden.) Or indeed, just about any riding activity where you'd need to use your hands for something else? So I think I'd argue that they're not really necessary.
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        11-01-2013, 02:55 PM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Working cowboys wear spurs. Haven't you noticed?
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        11-01-2013, 03:02 PM
      #30
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamesqf    
    Ever see a working cowboy carrying a whip? (That is, a riding crop for use on the horse being ridden.) Or indeed, just about any riding activity where you'd need to use your hands for something else? So I think I'd argue that they're not really necessary.
    Ever see a cowboy riding with spurs? I have. And while he may sometimes use the spur for a discrete cue, he will also use the spur if the horse refuses to move off of his leg cue. If you want a horse to be dull to the leg, let him discover that he can ignore your squeeze. And if there is no possibility of anything beyond the squeeze, except perhaps endless kicking, then the horse can learn to ignore you completely.

    When I took lessons a few years back, there was a horse I could kick with my heels until my legs ached, and he wouldn't go above a walk. But if I got on him with a crop in one hand, he would do anything off of light leg pressure. Hmmmm.... And that was why the instructor had me ride him for 30 minutes kicking without result. She wanted me to see how quickly he changed when she handed me a crop, and to understand that a crop or whip, used right, makes your horse MORE responsive to your leg, not less.

    Since Mia is a pretty willing horse, I don't carry a whip in my hand. I don't wear spurs. But I do have an option available if she decides to be lazy. She doesn't decide to be lazy very often, and I do NOT want her to learn. And believe me - just as she learned to ignore a snaffle, she is capable of learning to ignore my leg. That is the joy and terror of a reasonably smart horse...
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