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post #11 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:11 PM
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There isn't a nice way to put this-sell that horse or euth him before he really hurts you! You've already said he has sent you to the ER, it's time to quit while you are ahead.

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post #12 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:26 PM Thread Starter
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-im not sure what test were done, my mom done all that's stuff with the vet.
the saddle fits him well, ive had it checked by the guy I had working with Day and by my 4h leaders.
-as far as I know hes only coliced once, that was when I had him, he does have some old injuries on his front hooves you might be able to see them in the pics, but they don't bother him and he is completely sound, hes been checked by 3 different farriers to make sure he is sound.
-the vet doesn't know whats wrong, I called her after she was out the first time and she said that it might be the weather bothering him but shes not sure.
and yeah I know im sorry about that. an thanks

my dad says I cant sell him right away, we are going to move him to my dads house once the fence gets up and see if that does any good for DayKota, I did forget to add something tho, although Day did start his attitude when the snow got deeper, we had 2 mini horses that we recently sold, I have a pic of him and misty somewhere ill have to find it, well the minis kinda took Day in when he came home lol, he followed them around for like the first few days he was home, then afterward they started following him around. hes been worse since we sold them, I just wonder if maybe that might have something to do with the way hes acting, from the looks of it, him and the minis were pretty good friends. and hes been more pushy towards the other horses too since the minis left.

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post #13 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:31 PM
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Well....Ben was definitely too heavy for him. I suspect serious back pain.
As was said already, we need to know what he was checked for and cleared.
Where his teeth looked at?
Was he examined for ulcers?
What is his diet, what, when/how often, how much? And I don't mean " scoop" or "flake" actual weight. Of everything he is getting.
What's his living situation? Herd, alone, one buddy, stall, drylot, pasture.
Have you checked your tack? Pad, underside, for anything sticking out. Saddle, underside, anything sticking out, tree intact? He might have changed "figure", so the formerly well fitting saddle hurts him now and he associates any tack and getting cleaned up and you with pain.
How about hoof care?
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post #14 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM
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I would guess one of two things. 1), and fairly unlikely, your horse has some sore of brain tumor or disease effecting his brain. you could see weird behavior in all situations, increased aggression, strange behavior in the pasture, etc. Very unlikely.

2) is you are spoiling him. I Strongly suspect this. this time of year seems to bring out the naughty side of a lot of horses, but yours seems genuinely spoiled. Many trainers wont touch a spoiled saddle horse like this. If you cant find a good trainer that will train you and the horse, perfect. Otherwise;

a) put him down
b) keep him as a pasture pet
c) give him to someone who wants a major project or pasture pet.
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post #15 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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There isn't a nice way to put this-sell that horse or euth him before he really hurts you! You've already said he has sent you to the ER, it's time to quit while you are ahead.



ive been in the hospital at least once each by my other horses. it happens, theres always risks when you are around horses. i know for sure im not euth. him, weve been through to much together for me to do that to him now, and i couldn't do it, i just.. couldn't... its not that easy, it may be easy for you but not me, ive never had this happen before and ive already lost my young filly(she didn't make it through the harsh winter) and i wasn't that close to her and it was a nightmare i couldn't even think straight when i lost her, and with me being extremely close to Day, i couldn't euth. him, it may not be like this to you but to me i would feel like im basically killing him and i couldn't do that to him. im just afraid that if and when i do sell him, that i wont ever see him again and that he wont be treated ad taken care of right. if i could keep him as just a pasture pet i would, but grandpa says i cant, i have to have a horse i can trust and that i can use for 4h. this horse means the world to me, my dad got him for me. and ive been through so much with him, i just don't know what else to do.

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post #16 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:46 PM
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Stop anthropomorphizing the beast, OP. Also, proclaiming you're soooo much more sensitive and loving than people who would recommend euthing a dangerous horse isn't going to win you any popularity points.

I too, suspect the animal is just a spoiled, rotten brat and you've let him get away with it because you don't have a good handle on how to make him respect you and behave. If your other horses have put in the hospital they obviously have huge gaps in their training and respect, as well.

Being that you're a minor, this is all kind of a moot point anyway. Your parents are the ones making the decisions and paying out the money to care for these animals, so until you start paying your own way you'll have do as they dictate.
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post #17 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 03:47 PM
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ive never had this happen before and ive already lost my young filly(she didn't make it through the harsh winter)
.... What?

Sorry, OP, but if the horse is dangerous as you say, he needs to be euthed or given to a knowledgeable trainer that's willing to take him on.

Horses shouldn't be putting you in the hospital on a regular basis. There's a difference between being involved in a dangerous sport and taking unnecessary risks that put you in immediate danger.
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post #18 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 04:03 PM Thread Starter
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Stop anthropomorphizing the beast, OP. Also, proclaiming you're soooo much more sensitive and loving than people who would recommend euthing a dangerous horse isn't going to win you any popularity points.

I too, suspect the animal is just a spoiled, rotten brat and you've let him get away with it because you don't have a good handle on how to make him respect you and behave. If your other horses have put in the hospital they obviously have huge gaps in their training and respect, as well.

Being that you're a minor, this is all kind of a moot point anyway. Your parents are the ones making the decisions and paying out the money to care for these animals, so until you start paying your own way you'll have do as they dictate.

my horse is not a spoiled, yes he gets treats but no I don't baby him. if he does something wrong, does he get away with it? no of course not, im not a kid, I know how to control and work my horses, Ive been around horses my whole life. just because ive been in the hospital before because of my other horses doesn't mean they aren't trained properly, its not always the horses fault, and I admit to some of them being my fault, example: I was in a hurry, my mom and brother had already tacked up and were ready, and I didn't get my saddle tightened, it was just a little loose, but anyhow, my saddle slipped and I got hurt, end of story, it was my fault, you can always blame the horse, and now your probably going to say that im inexprianced because I have made some mistakes with my horse, Im not saying I know everything there is to know about horses, but I grew up with 14 horses, one of which my step grandpa still has but don't ride shes retired, and have been around horses my whole life. my horses are resectful. they know whats right and whats wrong, they have good days and bad days just like people do. and as of right now Daykota is the topic, not my other horses. i told my dad and he said i cant sell him yet, not until we move him and see how he acts at his house. and no my parents arnt the only ones who pay for these animals, i too have a job and help with the cost of the horses and other animals we have.

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post #19 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 04:06 PM
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Thanks equiiniphile for posting what I was thinking but I think I'm done here.

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post #20 of 36 Old 04-02-2013, 04:28 PM Thread Starter
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heres some pics of him with the minis
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