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        04-02-2013, 04:32 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    The filly didn't make it through the harsh winter... Where do you live? Did you just let it out to fend for itself in freezing cold, or? I mean, yeah, winters can be harsh (I live in Minnesota, I know my harsh winters) but that seems strange. What was her documented cause of death? (just curious)


    And I agree with the majority. It DOES sound spoiled - and it IS possible to spoil a horse unintentionally, so you may not even know you're doing it. I'm not sure how to solve the problems, but a sudden change in behavior isn't normal. It hints at something bigger - either the amount/time/frequency/method that you work with her has suddenly changed (for the worst) or she's having a medical issue. I'm sorry, I hope you can get this all sorted out.
         
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        04-02-2013, 04:57 PM
      #22
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shoebox    
    The filly didn't make it through the harsh winter... Where do you live? Did you just let it out to fend for itself in freezing cold, or? I mean, yeah, winters can be harsh (I live in Minnesota, I know my harsh winters) but that seems strange. What was her documented cause of death? (just curious)


    And I agree with the majority. It DOES sound spoiled - and it IS possible to spoil a horse unintentionally, so you may not even know you're doing it. I'm not sure how to solve the problems, but a sudden change in behavior isn't normal. It hints at something bigger - either the amount/time/frequency/method that you work with her has suddenly changed (for the worst) or she's having a medical issue. I'm sorry, I hope you can get this all sorted out.


    I live in Michigan, lol we don't know for sure that the cold was the main reason, she would've been turning 2 on jan. 1, 2013, and was only 11 hands, she was Arabian cross. We lost her on oct. 12, 2012.
    I havnt changed the way I work with Day and the vet said theres nothing wrong with him. But thanks :) and im trying.
         
        04-02-2013, 09:00 PM
      #23
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by BreannaMarie    
    i live in Michigan, lol we don't know for sure that the cold was the main reason, she would've been turning 2 on jan. 1, 2013, and was only 11 hands, she was Arabian cross. We lost her on oct. 12, 2012.
    I havnt changed the way I work with Day and the vet said theres nothing wrong with him. But thanks :) and im trying.
    What on earth!?!

    Do your horses have access to shelter?
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        04-03-2013, 02:30 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    This all sounds...interesting.
         
        04-03-2013, 03:27 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    Sounds like a spoilt horse to me too, I'm afraid.

    And count me in as another one who is wondering WTH happened to the filly?? I have never heard of a horse who is being adequately fed and watered and has access to some form of shelter that has died as a consequence of a harsh winter?? Neglected horses, sure. Horses that were already sick, sure. But not an otherwise healthy filly.
         
        04-03-2013, 06:05 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    Easy people, I understand the consarnation but lighten up a bit. At that time of year, the temperature here is not below freezing (yet) but the OP may just be going on what she was told by her folks.
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        04-03-2013, 10:56 AM
      #27
    Started
    I am sorry you lost the Filly What was going on with her before she died? Did she Collic? Oct is not Winter it is still fall hun. I really hope you can work things out with Daykota. I think you should Really think of what is best for him and you though. Like you stated in the beginning of the thread.
         
        04-03-2013, 11:18 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Its hard, near impossible, for people to advise online because we do not know the situation. Words can be misleading and inaccurate and for a serious problem like this you don't need random advice.

    What you do need is the advice of a trainer who can see you and the horse together. You mentioned a trainer you had out said that they couldn't do anything - well I'd be looking for a second opinion. You might not have the money to hire a full time trainer but at the very least you should be able to get a good one out to work with him and do an assessment of sorts. Get a really honest one and see if they think its your handling, or something else entirely. Talk to them about your options, but if your method isn't working and you are not willing to hire a trainer you're not leaving many options.

    At this stage, with those behavioural problems its going to be difficult to sell him. As a responsible seller you could probably only sell to trainers, and even then you'll probably have to give him away. You also will have to face the distinct possibility that, if his behaviour continues, they'll have him euthanized. Your other option could be to just retire him to pasture. Once you sell a horse, you'll have no control over his future.

    It's not cool to be thrown off horses. It's not cool to go to the ER. Part of being an adult is taking responsibility for yourself and your body, and riding horses that are consistently injuring you is not taking responsibility. It's childish and holds inconceivable dangers. Your life is shaped by your choices, so start making smart ones.
         
        04-03-2013, 12:24 PM
      #29
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexS    
    What on earth!?!

    Do your horses have access to shelter?

    Well duh, im not going to have 6 horses without at least 2 open shelters they can go into on their own free will. I have a leanto(however its spelled) that they can go into whenever they want and another barn with a divider in the middle of it making 2 stalls and a fence attached to each side of the barn, ill find some pics of my barns I have some somewhere, its hard to explain what the barns are like.
    The first pic is of the front of the stall barn, the sides of the barn are fenced with cattle panels so the horse can go in and out of the stall whenever they want.
    In the second pic, the filly that I lost is in on side of the barn, they can go in and out of it into a small fenced area.
    In the third pic, Day is in the leanto, it has a wooden fence through it so you can lock a horse in if needed but we took the gate off and the horses go in freely
    I don't have good pics of the barns, sry, and this summer we are going to build a 12 stall barn.
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        04-03-2013, 12:57 PM
      #30
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by HowClever    
    Sounds like a spoilt horse to me too, I'm afraid.

    And count me in as another one who is wondering WTH happened to the filly?? I have never heard of a horse who is being adequately fed and watered and has access to some form of shelter that has died as a consequence of a harsh winter?? Neglected horses, sure. Horses that were already sick, sure. But not an otherwise healthy filly.
    we don't know for sure what happened to her, I noticed she was trying to block herself from the wind, so as small as she was she fit our mini horse blanket so I put it on her and put her in one side of the divided stall barn, I put the minis in the other side so she wouldn't be alone. She could go in and out of the barn into the small fenced area if she wanted, she had food and water all the time, but I did notice that before I left for dads for the week that her eating and driking had slowed down and she wasn't moving as much, I asked mom to keep an eye on her and she said she would, that Friday when we came back from dads mom had told us that our girl was no longer with us... it hurt my brother the most, Kiss(the filly) was really his horse, we got her for him and he was going to work with her and show her eventually so it really hit my brother hard. Mom said she had found her laying outside the barn(in the fenced area) like she was sleeping. But that's what happened, its not like she was starving or anything. She was a healthy filly.
         

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