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is he mine?

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#1 ·
I work at a backyard barn in exchange for riding TJ. I have to supply my own tack and products. I am allowed to ride him whenever I want. I was told to give him all my love. And I do! When talking with people I call him mine. if people ask what animals I have I mention a horse.

do other people do this? is it misleading?
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#4 ·
He is your lease horse, you don't have ownership, meaning you can't move him to another barn or sell him. He is yours to ride and care for.
 
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I obviously realize I don't own him, hence me never referring to ownership. I'm talking more about how I refer to him. if you lease a horse are you inclined to call the horse yours?

ex: a friend was visiting me at the barn and I pointed to tj and said "that one is mine"
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When I leased a horse years ago I just said he was mine but I kept him at a different property - obviously if people asked something like how long had I owned him then I would tell them I was just leasing. I don't think it really matters if you say he is yours, does it? The only issue I could see would be if you said it when the owners were around and they took exception to it.
 
#9 ·
I did what basically amounted to a glorified feed lease on my old gelding. Even his owner called him mine. "Your horse decided to roll in the mud." "Did you get a chance to lunge your horse today?" (I worked exercising three or four horses other than my gelding, as well as mucking all the stalls and feeding at night).

As long as you let people know at some point that you're leasing him, but don't own him, I don't see a problem with it.
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#10 ·
I don't see a problem with it either. When I leased, I would call the horse "mine" if it made sense in the conversation. Most people don't need to know if the horse is legally mine or not (BO, vet, farrier, etc are obviously exceptions) If someone found out I rode and asked if I had a horse, I'd answer that I was leasing one; if someone asked what I was doing over the weekend, I'd say I was riding my horse.
 
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#11 · (Edited)
I call the horse I sponsor "mine".

Even the BO, who is the director of the rescue and therefore the owner calls him "my horse or Castles horse" she's always hitting me up saying "your horse misses you, your horse wants you to ride, your horse.....etc"

I'm always quick to clarify that I DO NOT own him if people inquire.

I think people biggest worry over claiming "ownership" is that you mat feel one day that you are entitled to the horse and then try to play the system and take the horse....

Does that make sense??

IMO its pretty harmless as log as you aren't trying to make the wrong impression

But if you clarify and you dont mean anything shady by it, then I never see a problem with it.
 
#12 ·
people say...my house..when they r only renting, so really there is no diff, im not gunna say...ohh this is the rental home i live at lol, the horse is urs atm as ur caretaker, i only lease miover, but i pay for everything he needs plus extra, i call him mine as no one else here calls him "mine" , his got to be someones and thats me!
 
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My daughter rode a borrowed horse for a while. She didn't want to and refused to at first as he was a big money earner. One day the friend that owned the horse handed her the horses papers and said "there, now he's yours". She started riding him that day after a lil more persuasion and some tears. But anytime we took him to a show, when someone asked her about the horse, she'd tell em that no he wasn't hers, Shes just borrowing him.

I honestly don't care who a horses owner is, except mine obviously, but there could be situations where the simple innocent act of saying "he's mine" could cause a fuss. I know horse people aren't real dead set in their ways or have strong opinions, HA!, but ownership can be very touchy. Almost as much as color, omg!

Wouldn't it be just as easy to say "my lease" or " that's the horse I ride" or even "yep that's Ed, I ride him". There's fanatics out there who freak about the lil things. Best to stay safe. Well unless you're me, a guy I know only owns bays and sorrels, I call em brown horses. It drives him insane! Haha.
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#17 ·
To non-horsey school/work friends I'd probably say that he was my horse (in passing) but to people around the barn/competitions etc I would say he's a lease.

I think its always good to be upfront, not that you're lying but if you were go somewhere with horses and say he's yours then when you walk away chances are somebody would say something like "she's lying, the horse belongs to so-and-so" then everybody would think you're deceiving them, which would damage your reputation in the horse world. Not saying you should care too much what others think - but among horses a good reputation is priceless.
 
#18 ·
How is it not lying if he is indeed not yours. Lying by omission is still lying. Why not tell the truth and remove any chance of being called out for calling something yours that isn't.

In regards to where you live, I also state that it is the house and/or property I lease. I do not own it so it would be wrong to say it is my house and land. I do say "my home" when inviting someone over as it is my home at the moment.

To me both situations only create a false sense of worth that is not doing anyone any good in the end except creating broader barriers for interpretation. I think our government officials have already claimed a monopoly on that to my dislike.

Why do you feel the need to call something yours that isn't? I understand the desire to have something more than you do, but to falsely claim it has never made sense to me. I guess in that sense I could say I own the company I work for if all I did was say it is my work.


I know someone is thinking I need to lighten up. Hmm, there is an option. lol
Just something else for you to take into your thinking process as it was asked what we think.


Enjoy the day as I hope it is a wonderful one because we all know that tomorrow is promised to no one.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Thanks for all the opinions. I do clarify he is a horse I lease if the conversation gets to the point where it is pertinent. It's mostly that I use "mine" as a stand-in word. I'm well aware of the terms of my lease and where I stand. his owner even says though, to treat him as if he's mine.

I don't have a problem with my word usage. I was just curious how other people handled similar situations.

when I think of our relationship theni I'm his, and he's mine.
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#20 ·
I've always called my lease horses mine. No one else touched them aside from barn owner/staff and myself. I was the only one who rode or did any training whatsoever.

When I refer to my last lease that I still intend to buy, I call her my horse. Owner refuses to admit that the horse would be much happier with me and wouldn't sell when I asked, and now she's ignoring me after she said I could still lease her. I'm going to offer to buy her again in august, with money in hand. Sure, if someone outside my family/boyfriend asked I don't call her such..but we were one of the best paired horses/riders around here. I know she isn't mine right now, but she'll never be her owner's horse in regards to emotion, trust, or respect. I dare not say such to leave it to misinterpretation though, only to those who understand where I come from and know what we've gone through together.

If someone asked what animals I said I always just told them a horse and 5 fish, lol. No one around here reads into things and runs back to the owner..and if they do, everyone I've leased from also refers to the horse as mine (which is true for the length of my lease, to an extent). If someone asks how long I've owned them I let them know I just lease the horse, but it's been however long. No one takes offense to it until the people involved have burned bridges or are on bad terms.
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#22 ·
the girl who leases Annie tells all her friends Annie is hers. if they ask her further, she tells them she leases, but for her lease days, Annie is all hers. which is true. When shes here, i tell her "go get your horse" "go feed your beast". I see no problem with it, as shes not attempting to break the rules of the lease, and she understands Annie is really hers.
 
#23 ·
I'm not sure what you mean by 'mine' really. In the sense that he's reliant on you for what care he gets then he is 'yours' in that sense but please be careful how much of your heart you pour into him because you have no control over what happens to him should the owner ever decide to sell
In a horse job that I had for 10 years (where I was very happy) I was pretty much allowed to believe that a foal born there the year I started was 'mine' as part of the working arrangement - I also got a weekly wage and commission on sales - I held on to him for 8 years but as offers on him kept going higher my boss eventually sold him - it was a business after all and to a certain extent I think I'd been kidding myself that it was a 'forever' thing. I did get enough out of it to buy myself a young horse but losing a horse I'd put my soul into for so long was terribly painful
 
#24 ·
There is a user on here that everyone jumped all over for calling some horses she cared for and what not hers and now every post she refers to as 'hers'. I'm confused that people jumped on her but this is different?

I always made it clear when I was leasing a horse just because its easier that way.
 
#26 ·
I'm not familiar with this other user you refer to, but I wasn't trying to be ugly. I simply gave my opinion like the OP asked for. I'm not saying they should follow my opinion as it is just that, my opinion. This country and world, for that matter, is full of people who are believing they are entitled to ownership of things they did not earn or purchase( I am not saying this is the case with the OP as it is an in general comment). I would not want to intentionally make such a statement as to lead one to think such a thing of me.

It doesn't matter what crowd I am around as to whether they knew the meaning behind it or not. The fact remains that you are laying claim to something that is, infact, not yours. That is a very bad habit to get yourself into. What ever happened to just being honest and upfront about even the little things that created our character as people. What ever happened to giving the persona of one's self as trustworthy just by the words we spoke and the way we treated other's belongings? You may be the most trustworthy person in your area, but to speak of another's property as to be yours is not creating that reflection.

I do my very best to treat each and every person I come in contact with as if I have known them for years. I shake their hand and strike up conversation about themselves to get to know them better. My family and friends always say " I have never met a stranger before". I also treat them and their property with the same respect.

If it bothers you to the point of wondering whether it is right or wrong should be your first clue that it is not right. That desire to know right from wrong in even this type of situation means you have a good head about you and just need to exercise it more. I hope this message comes across to you in a mild manner and not a demeaning way as it was not meant to be belittling.
 
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