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        03-01-2012, 09:25 PM
      #81
    Weanling
    Cute! Hope all works out!
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        03-01-2012, 09:32 PM
      #82
    Yearling
    I'd say don't be in a hurry to get another horse. I've juggled multiple horses before and it's hard... Just get your Tiger Lily, love her to pieces, and spoil the heck out of her! (Not behaviorally xD just... care wise. XD)
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        03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
      #83
    Weanling
    XD If I do get another, it will be another rescue from
    Them lol. Next I'd go for her ma, I think with proper care she could be saved
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        03-01-2012, 10:50 PM
      #84
    Weanling
    Her ma is quite feisty, I think that's why she's held on so long. She's got the habit of biting. She knows how to be ridden, but I'd restart the whole training if I went with her. I'd also have to figure out how to soften her mouth although I think she could learn bitless with work. I find Tiger Lily is at most risk. So, if things go well with her and once she's healthy, I'd try to buy her ma who I call Moonlight Dreamer. So, She'd be next if I got two horses
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        03-01-2012, 11:12 PM
      #85
    Yearling
    Poor ol' ma! As someone who's dealt with a lot of underweight, mistreated horses, I can give you a bit of advice: Nutrition is so, so important.

    Figuring out the balance of carbohydrates, proteins, etc. that your dear needs is difficult, but so worth it! Feed by weight, not by volume (which is a general rule anyways, but I find that a lot of people do this... and it's kind of a big deal). Also, adding supplements helps SO much! I've seen such a huge change in horses just with a couple added supplements! For her, because she's underweight right now, I'd think that a weight gain supplement was in order. And remember that nutrition has a direct link to not only (obviously) the horse's overall health and well being, but also to a horse's hooves, hair quality/growth, and attitude!

    And (you probably already know this, but I cannot stress this enough – I've known people who just... didn't, because they didn't understand) keep salt available at all times! Mudpie loves the himalayan salt licks – and I love them because they don't dissolve in the rain and he can't bite chunks out of them!

    And, to compile more basic, obvious rules of feeding: feed little often; if possible give her free choice hay at all times (preferably low protein grass hay). I really recommend feeding a supplementary grain/complete feed – Mudpie (even though he's only 6) gets senior feed which is excellent for him! It's been over two years and we're still trying to get his hooves healthy again – they're getting better but it's taking forever! And, quite obviously, keep fresh water available at all times. I'm sure you already know, but I just felt like blabbing it all out, so there it is.

    And, some more advice (which I know you probably don't want xD): Blanket during winter... Yes, Southern California winters are EPICALLY AWESOME, but she'll still benefit from a blankie – a lightweight, waterproof one is kind of all you lucky duckies need! (Unless you're in a desert area... in which case I think it gets pretty chilly and she might need more) Aaaaand, since you're in California, you can get LMF Feeds, which are AWESOME! And you may also be able to get Elk Grove Milling Feeds, which are really good, too (Stable Mix is great stuff)!

    I think that the first things you're going to want to get done are her feet (trimmed, and possibly shod if they're really terrible), deworming (start with a mild one like Ivermectin and as you start her rotation, you can just gently increase the potency of the dewormers she receives), and, of course, teeth floating. Teeth floating is infinitely important because young horse's teeth are soft, and they develop hooks and uneven wear really easily – take care of it regularly, or it causes problems! XD And her vaccinations... GET RABIES! I know horses don't regularly get it and it's not in your area, blah blah blah... but to an unvaccinated horse, rabies has a 100% fatality rate and what a tragedy it'd be to lose your horse because she/he was lacking one vaccination... And all the regulars(:

    Gosh, you're probably like "Well THIS person like to see herself type!" and you probably don't want my advice, but there it is(: I've dealt with a crapton of... well, crap when it comes to picking up the pieces and trying to fix a mistreated/neglected horse!

    You totally have to keep us updated!!!!
         
        03-01-2012, 11:20 PM
      #86
    Weanling
    I love the advice and really appreciate it! If things go well/right and Tiger Lily has improved greatly, I hope to get her ma by summers end. My goal for Tiger Lily by end of summer is to get her to pass a health check, have her feet cared for (gotta get her used to that), get her dewormed and give her shots. Training wise I'd like to get her lunging properly and if possible, ground driving. I plan on buying the 60 day supply of weight/muscle gain as that seems like that's all she's need as she's not too underweight
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        03-01-2012, 11:43 PM
      #87
    Yearling


    When it comes to supplements, remember that you've gotta keep them on it long term. It has to pass through their system and start taking affect and then it'll make changes. The reason that she doesn't have muscle is because a) she's young, b) she's underweight, c) she's not being worked or not being worked properly. Don't get her any of those dumb "muscle building" steroid... things. They're a waste of money... and no, they don't work. XD

    Be patient with her condition... she's pretty underweight (not emaciated, but not well cared for) and needs some TLC! :) Oh, and take a curry comb and groom/massage her EVERYWHERE! You'll see such a difference. If she acts like it hurts in one area, do it more in that area! She'll appreciate it so much! Massage really hard and deep... And it will also make her coat healthy and shiny and soft(:

    Where in So Cal are you? (If you don't mind me asking )
         
        03-01-2012, 11:47 PM
      #88
    Foal
    Okay here is my advice. Find out a fair price. Offer fair price. Give them a short deadline to reply(I'd go for three days two weeks maximum). (If it was me and I wanted that horse I'd pay anything no matter how ridiculous it was which is probably bad advice) If they say no and don't have a counteroffer and refuse to sell. Just start reporting them to whatever your local animal abuse agency is. If they do sell make sure you have everything in writing. Because really the only reason I'm recommending you wait on reporting them is so you can try to get this horse.

    Please report these people either way. Have any documentation pictures/videos etc that you can get.
         
        03-01-2012, 11:48 PM
      #89
    Weanling
    About an hour north of San Diego and south of Los Angeles! You heard of Norco??

    In case anyone's interested, they use a double strand twisted wire bit. So, not even just a cruel one, this is like hell.

    I've been the one person whose been good to Tiger Lily since birth, so she trusts me. She lets me touch her on her legs.

    Moonlight is tempermental and doesn't trust people at all - not that I can blame her and she does have good leg cues. I rode her one time and I didn't want to use the bit so I tried to use leg cues and she did well. Poor baby has a mouth like concrete. I don't expect she'll ever be a people person, but my goal is to get her to see I'll never hurt her and always spoil her. She is 9 years old this year, and has had 7 foals in her life without proper nutrition.
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        03-02-2012, 12:11 AM
      #90
    Weanling
    I have reported them, there are too many cases. I've already printed out a bill of sale I found online, filled in all the appropriate info, just waitin on the price and their sig!
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